Concentration Camps for Homeless in Irvine?

NextDoor is another hyper-local social media platform, which I’m sure many readers use on a regular basis.  I was alerted to a post from March 20 — written at the height of the anti-Tent City hysteria in Irvine — suggesting that the Homeless be placed in concentration camps.

Ponder that.

Concentration camps.  In America.

Has that ever been a good idea for anyone?

Here’s the post and I’ve deleted the name of the writer and her email address, but it is this precise attitude about the homeless and helping them that makes me pray for humanity.  The post is italicized and I’ve bolded particularly troublesome comments.

Homeless Tent Village in Irvine!
NAME/NEIGHBORHOOD DELETED · Below is the email I sent to the OC Supervisors! Dear Shawn Nelson, Vice Chair, 4th District, Michelle Steel, and Lisa Bartlett: Below is the email I sent to Andrew Do, Chairman. I’m forwarding the same email to all of you to show my concerns about the homeless problems in our Orange County! Thank you for considering more options to solve the homeless trend!
NAMED DELETED/EMAIL ADDRESS DELETED
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:39 PM To: first.district@ocgov.com Subject: Homeless Tent Village in Irvine! Dear Andrew Do, Chairman, 1st District:

One Irvine resident said it best “I’m torn on this matter. For one I didn’t move to Irvine to live near a homeless camp. I came here because of a safe community and great schools for my children. I work hard to achieve this. I grew up in poverty and both my parents are addicts. I understand people want to be good citizens but most of these people do not want help and want to continue using drugs and live their lifestyle which can only lead to crime and other major issues in our communities. This really worries me but where to place them?”

Within a few months, the Irvine Tent Village will just look like the Riverbed in Santa Ana filled with human waste, needles, diseases, trash, etc. Please stop this unwise decision to solve this problem!

I know everyone wants to help the homeless! Instead of setting up Homeless Camps in our communities, how about setting up a Homeless Concentration Camp (not the WWII Japanese Concentration Camp) far away from the neighbourhoods and offer them help in that kind of closed and supervised environments? They will get help and not be allowed to do whatever they please at the same time! They have choices to either stay in the Homeless Concentration Camp and get help or freedom to live outside but not living on the street! Otherwise, they will be arrested and put in jail and not the Homeless Concentration Camp!

I hope I don’t sound heartless! Thank you Sir for reading this far! NAME DELETED

…..

Yes lady, you do sound heartless.
Since the Jews were forced to wear a yellow star and the gays/lesbians a pink triangle, what badge of shame shall we place on the homeless and what color will it be? Please leave your suggestion in comments.
Last Sunday’s LA Times had a feature about Irvine’s Asian community scoring a political victory by getting the Board of Supervisors to rescind their idea for a tent city homeless encampment on County-owned land near the Great Park.
From that story:

One by one, the buses pulled up to the Orange County Hall of Administration last week carrying posters with messages such as “No Tent City” and “No Homeless in Irvine.”

Many of the hundreds on board were immigrants, and this would be their first experience joining a political protest.

A week earlier, county officials announced that they were considering placing emergency homeless shelters in Irvine as well as in Laguna Niguel and in Huntington Beach. All three cities immediately fought the plan, but the opposition was most fierce in Irvine.

Many of the loudest voices in the movement to block the shelter plan were Chinese Americans who came together through social media apps and various community groups. They were joined by immigrants from South Korea, India, Mexico and the Middle East, along with some whites.

They rallied to protect their community from what they see as the ills of homeless camps, which many argued don’t belong in their famously clean, safe, family-oriented planned community. Their protests helped persuade the Orange County Board of Supervisors to overturn the shelter proposal, leaving the county without a homeless plan at a time when the population is growing and officials are shutting down tent cities along the Santa Ana River.

It was a big political victory for the diverse opposition from Irvine. But it also came at a price, with some accusing the residents of intolerance and simply wanting to keep the homeless out of their own cities without offering an alternative solution.

Parrisa Yazdani, an Irvine mother of two of Japanese and Iranian descent, launched a Facebook page called “Irvine Tent City Protest” that ballooned to more than 5,000 members in a few days.

“People who I never knew were calling me night and day and asking to do whatever they could to help. It’s really proof that we are a community dedicated to a mission, like never before,” she said, partnering with Lu and Wu to navigate the flow of information. (Editor’s note: if you had a different opinion other than being opposed to Tent city, Yazdani and other administrators of the Facebook page blocked you and purged you; no one wanted to hear anything other than compliance.  And it was Yazdani who suggested those who supported placing homeless at the County land at the Great Park “wanted the homeless to get cancer.”  I think dying of exposure, hunger or thirst would be a far more immediate concern).

The residents rejected the idea that they are being elitist, arguing that they were simply trying to protect their city — and their families.

“All of us came here and stayed here for one reason — family. No tent city — that’s our message. Irvine never said, ‘no homeless people,'” Yazdani said.

“I’m not closed-minded,” added Alex Lu, a pharmaceutical scientist from Irvine. “I want to listen to all sides, and when I went to the protest I tried talking to the homeless advocates. We really welcome hearing about what they need.”

….

Lili Graham, a homeless advocate and litigation director for the Legal Aid Society of Orange County, described the Irvine effort as “amazing” but misguided. The proposed shelter site in the city had already been zoned “and determined to be appropriate for emergency shelters,” she said.

“It was a loud group, but in a county of 3 million, it’s one group. There was a lot of leadership there — and there needs to be a lot of leadership on the county level to solve this issue,” she said.

But some Irvine residents said the solution should not include their city.

“They need to put them somewhere, maybe somewhere else in California,” resident Angela Liu, who owns a legal services company, told the Board of Supervisors. “I really don’t know where they can go. But Irvine is beautiful, and we don’t want it to get destroyed.”

If this community is interested in actual ideas and ways to help the homeless, the concentration camp idea is the only one I have seen so far.  From the screen grabs I get from the No Tent City in Irvine crowd, they do not want homeless in Irvine period.  There are no ideas on how to help.  Plenty of NextDoor Northwood readers want to raise money to support Supervisor Shawn Nelson’s opponents for Congress.  It’s too bad they can’t use that money to fund a real homeless shelter instead.
Irvine is a safe and wonderful city.  It’s remarkably diverse and rich in culture.  Irvine is increasingly showing the intolerance of some of its neighbors and this is disheartening.

  7 comments for “Concentration Camps for Homeless in Irvine?

  1. Senior
    April 4, 2018 at 10:28 am

    I found this post on NextDoor- Ellen Wang – everyone get to know her, her family, her children and get her the heck out of Irvine. You are disgusting and a disgrace to humanity. Concentration camps? Really ? How much more offensive can you people get. I do not understand how our city council can pander to these racist people who think they are the first people to show any compassion to th homeless when there have been so many who have been doing so much for years. Now that the homeless are in their backyard they have suddenly found their compassion? How much more disingenuous can they get? I’m personally sick and nauseous. Ellen Wang- have your fellow Tent City people escort your racist backside out of our city.

    • Sharon Toji
      April 4, 2018 at 4:05 pm

      I will look out for Ms Wang, and hope she doesn’t live in my Village. Bad enough that people like that live in Irvine or Orange County, or maybe even on our planet. If our president wants to call out the troops to keep undesirables out of our country, maybe they could start with the “Wangs” of this world. We could use many fewer of them — even one is too many!

    • Dan Chmielewski
      April 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

      I don’t think we should be kicking anyone out of Irvine; but people need to know this sort of language for solving the homeless problem is offensive

  2. Sharon Toji
    April 4, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    I have lived in Irvine before it was the City of Irvine, and was so happy to finally see the diversity of our United Nations City, but now I am disgusted at the attitudes I am seeing. Whenever I have brought up a city, county, state or national political issue, I’m told that Next Door is just for happy topics like dog walking and selling your expensive stuff you no longer want. Now, it seems that politics is OK, as long as it is racist hate mongering against our fellow human beings, who are unfortunately homeless. I have not gone back to Next Door (even though I am the founder of my particular neighborhood site, because I will be apt to be so rude to these vile people. I suddenly have a room available and am seriously considering calling Families Forward to send me a homeless person, perhaps a mother with a young child. I wonder how many of us might be able to do that, and suddenly people might find the “homeless” right next door to them. Guess what, I doubt they could distinguish them from their own family members once they have had a chance to have a restful night’s sleep and a warm bath or shower. Shame on you, Irvine! All your education for this – to be hateful human beings suggesting concentration camps! In Germany, as a graduate student, I lived on Dachauer Strasse. I visited Bergen-Belson. My husband and my brother-in-law were both in our own homegrown concentration camps as children — born here, but concerned part of the Japanese enemy. SHAME!

  3. OCDEM
    April 4, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    The comparison’s (however unfortunate) to Nasim Najafi Aggdam AKA the “YouTube Shooter” and Crazy Greg’s narcissist colleague Mirevette are making rounds on social media.

    376 “selfies” in a month, a hard working husband and conscripted children is the story.

    What mental illness is it that compelling that makes people to post on FACEBOOK, introducing their children to unknown danger.

    I don’t know Mirevette, I have seen her, she is hot, sexy and SCARY. In the “I’m married…STAY AWAY from me” kinda way.

    YouTube shooter/ Josh Newman Acolyte the similarities are odd. Check it out. Check them out. Check out Their pasts.

  4. katherine daigle
    April 5, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    I would like to task our Developers with the following: Build homes for our OC homeless Veterans.

    Let not one Veteran in Orange County live on the streets in Southern California. It’s time for every one of you and every politician to stop kicking the can down the street, lets go, build those homes for our service men and women, no more excuses.

  5. Nostradamus Says Donald Trump Is The Anti-Christ
    April 7, 2018 at 7:28 am

    So when does The Great Wall of Irvine go up? Is Mexico going to pay for it?

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