The OJ Seat on the Anaheim City Council

Donna Acevedo-Nelson

Donna Acevedo-Nelson

Donna Acevedo-Nelson received 92% of the vote for the DPOC endorsement for Anaheim’s District 5 city council race at the Party’s August endorsement meeting, largely because she’s the only Democrat on the ballot. She’s also the wife on OrangeJuice Blog publisher Vern Nelson and fellow blogger Greg Diamond spoke of “twisting her arm” at the DPOC meeting to speak on her behalf (I was there; it wasn’t an arm twisting.  Diamond just got up, made a gesture towards her and got in line to speak). And she got the endorsement after being left off the nominating committee’s preliminary list.

For a blog that routinely declares Democrats they don’t like as “unelectable,” it’s somewhat curious that Acevedo-Nelson has such unabashed support. But it’s easy to see why.

Donna’s a nice woman. She’s a community activist.  I disagree with her contention that Anaheim Police “murdered” her son in 2012; he was killed by police after emerging from a stolen car (Anaheim Police weren’t angels in 2012 but there’s little evidence to suggest Acevedo was executed as Donna insists).  And this isn’t a “Don’t Vote for Donna” post at all.  I just don’t think Donna would be an effective city council member – and she doesn’t have to be.  She’ll get her council packet every week and the Orange Juice blog editors and their surrogates will go through it and tell her exactly how to vote on every issue.

So the vote for Acevedo-Nelson is really a vote for Vern Nelson, Greg Diamond, Cynthia Ward and Brian Chuchua to gain a vote from the dais without the benefit of actually being elected themselves. Donna will be their Puppet, carefully scripted by them every other week, and likely a reliable vote for conservative Mayor Tom Tait, CATER, and a small group of self-anointed “good government” types who are embracing the very sort of influence they say they abhor.

Would Donna truly understand the nuance of union contracts, bonds, financing, and city services? Probably not.  And she doesn’t have too at all.

For the OJ blog, who routinely accuses elected officials of being Pringle Puppets and asks “is this the best we can do?,” they have their own puppet and will not only promote her candidacy breathlessly but already appear to position her for seats on various county boards. So when the OJ blog breathlessly criticizes “Pringle Puppets,” just remember it’s perfectly OK for them to have their own.

  134 comments for “The OJ Seat on the Anaheim City Council

  1. Gustavo Arellano
    August 30, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    Dan, dismissive of a person-of-color candidate? Why, this has never happened before!

    • Miguel
      August 31, 2016 at 12:06 am

      It’s laughable that creepy little Gustavo, who has made his name playing a stereotyped Mexican cartoon character for Orange County Anglos, and who opposed district elections in Anaheim, would pretend to come to the defense of a person-of-color. For Gustavo, its all about personal grudges, not politics or principles. Hence his calling Dr. Jose Moreno a “race hustler” for opposing little creepy Gustavo’s invitation to speak at an education conference at Chapman. No doubt Dr. Moreno thought the conference was, or should be, a serious event, not a clown show.

      • Gustavo Arellano
        August 31, 2016 at 9:15 pm

        I’d have more credence in your comment if you put a full name behind it instead of a mere Miguel. Al Jabbar: is that you?

        • August 31, 2016 at 9:54 pm

          I don’t know who it is. I don’t think it’s Al. Not his style.

        • September 1, 2016 at 9:38 am

          Al voted to endorse Donna, along with 92% of the DPOC Central Committee. Thanks for that, Al, and the rest of you.

          • Henry Lipton
            September 14, 2016 at 3:24 pm

            does everyone know they endorsed a woman who is a terrible mother. Someone who let her son fall into the gang culture that resulted in an arrest? Does she have evidence her son was handcuffed and then shot?

            • September 15, 2016 at 9:34 am

              Somehow, I don’t think this is Paul Lucas’s imaginary “friend.”

    • OC DEM
      September 2, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      This coming from the stalwart who’s latest article featured: “Why do Mexican women let their bush grow out?”.

      Classy Gustavo.

      Then again this the same cat who railed on about Gentrifacation, only to have jis wife open a shop in the bowells of hipstertown.
      You should pull a Vern and run her for City Council Gus.

      • Advocate
        September 2, 2016 at 2:04 pm

        Does anyone want to explain the black eye Donna had when speaking to Anaheim City Council in Fall 2016? Domestic violence moth and all that? Maybe Vern can say ” she fell.”

        This comment was part of a requested take down notice; this request is denied. Ms. Acevedo did in fact speak in public at a council meeting in 2014; I asked her about the black eye I saw on the video of the meeting and she said it was “none of my business.” Voters have every right to ask her what happened.

        • OC DEM
          September 2, 2016 at 5:31 pm

          comment deleted

  2. August 30, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    Race has nothing to do with it Gustavo. Race isn’t mentioned anywhere in this post.

  3. junior
    August 30, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    Gustavo is right up there with the race-baiting, race hustlers and poverty pimps Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. He and they see race in EVERYTHING.

    • Gustavo Arellano
      August 31, 2016 at 9:13 pm

      Hey: at least I could call out Mater Dei on its protection of pedophiles, unlike your coward ass who can’t even put his real name behind a pseudonym.

      • August 31, 2016 at 9:55 pm

        Non-sequitur champion of OC

        • Gustavo Arellano
          August 31, 2016 at 10:08 pm

          Truth hurt, donnit? And truth is you’ve out-bloviated the Bloviator with your continued championining of pathetic Dems and laughable vendettas against anyone who doesn’t toe the corporatist Dem line. Whatever: You’ll always have the Angels. Oh, wait…

          • Miguel
            August 31, 2016 at 10:29 pm

            Oh no! Topo Gigio is angry! Have another drink, cabron.

            • September 1, 2016 at 8:45 am

              Isn’t that an Ed Sullivan reference?

          • September 1, 2016 at 5:19 am

            Let me know what Mater Dei has to do with this post champ? Don’t you have some “Best of” awards to sell to your advertisers?

            • junior
              September 1, 2016 at 7:12 am

              That is GA’s favorite cudgel he uses to bash me whenever I get under his very thin skin.

              • September 1, 2016 at 8:36 am

                Since we’re dipping our toe in the pool of non-sequiturs, has Gustavo ever expressed a word about BackPage.com? OC Weekly was once owned by the people who owned the Village Voice in New York City; they had a business partnership with a site called Backpage.com which was a place people could procure the services of prostitutes who were often victims of sex trafficking. Voice did divorce themselves from BackPage in 2012: http://www.adweek.com/news/press/village-voice-media-sheds-prostitution-hub-backpagecom-143958
                From that story, BackPage account for 1/7th of Voice Media’s revenue: “Backpage.com became the web’s leading destination for prostitution ads after Craigslist shut down its own “adult services” section due to pressure from outside groups. Backpage was also accused of aiding sex trafficking, which resulted in public outcry from government and law enforcement officials and led blue-chip advertisers like Pfizer and American Airlines to boycott Village Voice publications due to their connection with Backpage.

                Backpage brought in at least $28.9 million in the past year with its adult services ads alone, according to an estimate from interactive media consultants AIM Group. That, in turn, accounted for fully one-seventh of the company’s revenue, the Los Angeles Times reported. The loss of the Backpage advertising, said AIM group founding principal Peter Zollman, “is going to be a pretty heavy blow for the print.”

                So while its well and good OC Weekly has a new owner and its former owner surrendered millions in revenue from a site that earned money from the backs of victims of sex trafficking, BackPage.com hasn’t changed at all. This story was published in May: http://abcnews.go.com/US/daughters-sale-young-american-girls-sold-online/story?id=39350838 From that story, this girl was 15: Backpage’s site is surprising simple, similar to Craigslist, but with a racy adult services section with categories like “Escorts” and “Body Rubs.” These are technically legal categories, but many in law enforcement say these ads are thinly veiled code for prostitution. While it is free for someone to post adult services ads, Backpage makes money by offering paid add-ons, including the ability to re-post the ad every hour and to post it in multiple neighboring cities.

                “He put me in all these clothes, took some pretty provocative pictures of me and then got to Backpage, and then you can click on to post an ad,” she said. “He just showed me how to do it, so I could do it myself.”

                Natalie said the website asked if she were 18 years or older, but “a simple yes click was about as far as that went.”

                With Backpage ads posted with titles such as “Well worth it, 150 an hour” and “It won’t take long at all,” Natalie said she was working every single day and started earning as much as $4,000 a weekend, handing over all the cash to Hopson.

                “He started getting physically abusive and really, I couldn’t even go in the bathroom without the door being unlocked,” Natalie said. “He would sleep in the living room next to the front door, so I couldn’t leave.”

                So yes, Mater Dei protecting pedophiles is a terrible and awful thing Gustavo. But for a time, a portion of your paycheck at OC Weekly was derived from a site that protects sex traffickers. You have yet to publicly say anything critical of your former employer and their role in promoting this site. Speak up whenever you want to.

                • Gustavo Arellano
                  September 1, 2016 at 2:25 pm

                  Blueviator is your new name. Toodles!

  4. Florice Orea Hoffman
    August 30, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Most of time the Democratic Party of Orange County will endorse the only democrat running in the race. I think this blog is rather dismissive of her candidacy and sounds sexist to me. Hillary is a separate person from Bill and I am sure that as a women and a Latina, she may have her own point of view.
    I am hopeful to have a democratic majority on the counsel and that the principles of the Democratic Party will be upheld including immigrant rights and high paying union jobs.

    • Florice Hoffman
      August 30, 2016 at 4:12 pm

      Council my phone thinks it knows best

    • August 30, 2016 at 8:58 pm

      Nothing sexist about this post.

      • Gustavo Arellano
        August 31, 2016 at 10:10 pm

        Of course it’s sexist. You’re painting a woman who got the DPOC endorsement as a puppet. Funny how you don’t make the same accusations against Beth Krom, who’s more robotic than Bender in her pro-Agran utterances…

        • Miguel
          August 31, 2016 at 10:41 pm

          Topo Gigio Gustavo says “What’s sexist for you isn’t sexist for me or my crappy sex-selling newspaper! it isn’t sexist if it makes a buck for little Topo Gigio Gustavo!”

          • Gustavo Arellano
            September 1, 2016 at 2:27 pm

            Aw, Anon Miguel is having a field day talking about me—cute!

        • September 1, 2016 at 5:04 am

          Beth was never an Agran puppet. They might vote alike, but to suggest she was a puppet shows how little you know her

        • September 1, 2016 at 5:18 am

          Well, based on your argument, the comment you just made about Krom was sexist

          • September 1, 2016 at 1:34 pm

            Not really. Gustavo makes his “puppet” judgment on Beth based on her long record, whether we agree with him or not.

            You have no basis to call Donna a puppet, except for her gender, race, and working class status.

            • September 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm

              I do; watched her make a poor case for her own endorsement and stand back to let Dr. Bill, Jeff and Greg talk on her behalf. I have every basis to question her ability to ascertain city budgets, union contracts, bond issues and more. I think most of it would fly over her head.

              • junior
                September 1, 2016 at 4:15 pm

                And then there is her lack of experience – and her what is her level of formal education Vern?

                And as an aside – if I were running Vern would no doubt say that I am too old. Vern is an age-ist you know.

                • Jr. Jr.
                  September 4, 2016 at 9:06 am

                  Donna is more professionally accomplished than Dave Zenger. Three years now since he got fired. Zenger wants to make fun of those he views as dumb. When was the last time Randy Roddy got a paycheck?

            • Anonymous
              September 2, 2016 at 1:55 pm

              comment deleted

              • stepnfetchit
                September 3, 2016 at 10:49 am

                maybe we should ask cynthia ward ,she knows everything . and she really likes to see her name printed on anything . go to any blog in California and you’ll see her name. Doesn’t matter what the subject is…she’s a expert on BS though

  5. Jeff LeTourneau
    August 30, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    What a sexist, racist hit piece which bears no resemblance to a factual news story. The embarrassment was that the endorsement committee left her off saying they didn’t know a lot about her. Yet, it was Donna who has been a tireless fighter for police reform and political accountability at almost every Council meeting since her son was needlessly gunned down by the APB in 2012. This is a winnable seat as the Republicans will likely split the vote leaving Donna, the only Democrat as the victor. She is exactly the kind of candidate that Distruct elections were designed to bring to the forefront. Asa newly elected DPOC Central committee member, you would think you would use your resources to assure her elelection rather than throw her under the bus to satisfy you ongoing petty beef with your blog competitor. Shame on you Dan!!!

    • August 30, 2016 at 7:45 pm

      Jeff, Donna’s gender is not mentioned or ridiculed. Nor is her ethnicity. Additionally, it’s not a “don’t vote for Donna” piece — more of a “buyer beware.” You fail at reading comprehension.

      I believe investigative reports indicate her son shot at police officers after exiting a stolen vehicle. Neither one of us was there, so neither of us are in a position to know if an officer returning fire was needless. I agree she is a tireless advocate for police accountability. But being a council member requires significantly more.

      As a newly elected central committee member, I’ll note your constant disrespect for our Party’s current chair, your own support of a conservative Republican mayor who lobbied for INS agents inside Anaheim City Jail and who voted for bonds for the Mickey & Friends Parking structure in a deal similar to the Various economic development programs that create jobs, and your censure motions against other elected Democrats. Save the lecture about assuring the election of Democratic candidates for your brother-in-law who routinely rejects candidates like Melissa Fox in Irvine.

      I will use my resources to tell stories I think need telling. The spark for this story came from conversations at the Truman dinner. You know, the one where the current chair was honored for his work moving the Party forward with no help from you.

      • Jeff LeTourneau
        August 31, 2016 at 12:57 pm

        My unanimously passed motion to censure Jordan Brandman for trying to block the implementation of the People’s Map, and my unanimously passed resolution opposing Tom Daly’s vote against minimum wage increases are EXACTLY what the DPOC governing body should be doing!!! As for giving the Chair the highest award at the dinner while he is still in office and while so many far more worthy community leaders remain unrecognized, this was a huge embarrassment!! Additionally, to give the chair credit for naturally occurring age and racial demographic changes which have primarily led to the red to blue progress, as well as two huge outside registration grants, which fell into our laps and which we were only a pass though is ludicrous. Finally let me remind you that after being soundly rebuked for his attempts to prevent Julio Perez from becoming Vice Chair of the State Latino Caucus, the Chair shut down virtually all standing committees, destroying any hope of organizing community allies into the Party. Four years of duck and cover do not a Truman recipient make!!!

        • August 31, 2016 at 7:01 pm

          You sound unhinged Jeff.

          Henry’s efforts put money in the bank, got us more candidates, and local Democratic clubs swelled our ranks. You ought to spend more time going after Republicans instead of Democrats, but again, it’s ok for you to do this and not me? But again, the people in the room to honor Henry are a testament to his hard work and efforts.

          Your rambling answer and general whining are a reminder to those who supported Henry over you for Party chair that they made the right choice.

        • August 31, 2016 at 7:06 pm

          fyi, Daly’s argument on the minimum wage was it was tied to the CPI. Ever take an economics class? The law should be tying the minimum wage to what the governor and legislature say, not the markets

          • Dan Chmielewski
            September 1, 2016 at 10:07 pm

            Your unianimously passed motions came after the People’s Map was approved and after the new minimum wage law was passed. The only thing these motions accomplished were to give two elected Democrats you don’t like a black eye. So please let’s stop with lectures about being a good Central Committee member-elect OK?

    • David Vasquez
      August 30, 2016 at 9:42 pm

      I will have to respectfully disagree with his assessment of Joel “Yogi” Asceved’s death as “needless”. The FACTS tell an entirely different story.

      As for your claim of “racism” and “sexism” reading comprehension must not meet your level, because I can’t find a single mention of her gender or race. I would join the author in questioning her credentials.

      • Anonymous
        August 31, 2016 at 12:59 pm

        Jeff’s attack on Brandman should be considered homophobic by his standard. He is attacking a Gay elected.

      • Anonymous
        September 2, 2016 at 1:57 pm

        what gang does she support?

        This comment was part of Mr. Nelson’s take down notification; this is denied on the grounds the question is clearly sarcasm.

  6. APD SUPPORTER
    August 30, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    I am sure Mrs. Nelson is genuinely mournful over the loss of her son at the hands of police. In reality, Joel “Yogi” Asceveda was an active member of a violent street gang and was in possession of loaded gun (His stepfathers contention that he never had a gun is a lie, given Yogi’s FB post with that very weapon is out there for everyone to see). The IMPOSSIBLE story told by his co-conspirtor and felon Vanessa Duran is frankly more proof of his bad nature
    Now, how does a young man end up in this position,high on meth lying dead in a ghetto with a gun and fleeing gang enforcement officers in a stolen vehicle? I would look to his upbringing. His parents, FIRST. Did he know his Father? Was his Mother active in his life? How far gone do you have to be to allow this from your child?
    Bottom line is Donna is in complete denial.
    She could have turned “Yogi’s” death into something positive, by speaking out about gang violence, and banding together with other Moms of at risk youth. How about seriously yalking to young women about the risks associated with the gang lifestyle. Why can’t Donna stand up to the Reveles brothers and their ilk instead sharing Facebook messages with them? How many other council candidates have friends in prison?
    I don’t know how well qualified Donna is hopefully she would be a better councilmember than she was a Mother.
    Just a question, what happened to “Yogi’s” Father, was he killed too?
    I’ll take just about anyone over an AVLS sympythizer/enabler. Thats what Mrs. Nelson is, an active participant in criminal gang activity.

  7. Karen Hinks
    August 31, 2016 at 7:06 am

    As a woman, I find this post and the responses that follow extremely offensive on so many levels I don’t know where to start.

    • August 31, 2016 at 10:42 am

      I’m sorry you feel this way. There’s no mention of Ms. Acevedo-Nelson gender or ethnicity. It’s not relevant. Her support network is the issue, especially if she is elected

      • September 1, 2016 at 9:00 am

        “I’m sorry you feel this way.”

        As classic as a sexist racist not being able to see his own sexism and racism.

        • September 1, 2016 at 9:36 am

          Keep clinging to that line; the post never referenced her gender nor ethnicity. Donna could be a German-Irish grandfather and I would have written the same thing. I will henceforth refer you your attacks on Mr. Brandman as anti-Semitic and homophobic. Deal?

        • September 1, 2016 at 10:09 am

          Actually I like and respect Karen very much so I am genuinely sorry she feels this way.

    • Alex Vega
      August 31, 2016 at 12:34 pm

      What specifically does Ms. Hinks find offenive?

      I am offended that the OC DEMS would endorse someone of Donna’s caliber. She is ill qualified for the job snd have proved to be on the wrong side of law and order.

      I am offended that someone who raised a gang member wants to lead our city

    • stepnfetchit
      September 3, 2016 at 1:50 pm

      start by sitting there and reading these blogs / posts…your input is not warranted as are Cynthia wards not intelligent enough for us to read. are you two twins?

    • junior
      September 5, 2016 at 2:03 pm

      Karen – How do you feel about Vern refusing to take down a threatening comment directed at my daughters and me?

      • September 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm

        I don’t understand why you are banned from OJ but Paul Lucas is not. Makes zero sense

        • David Vasqez
          September 5, 2016 at 10:00 pm

          Because Paul “Henry Lipton” Lucas carries water for them.

          Mike “Junior” Tardiff does not.

          It’s not hard to figure out, my 100+ comments there NEVER appear, because I criticized Greg Diamond. Funny thing is we agree on most things, he’s just an A-HOLE about it.

          My whole reason for being here is his insistence on being RIGHT all the time. The dude is CRAZY.

          • September 5, 2016 at 10:04 pm

            He thinks he knows who you really are. Did you send that glass of wine to my table at the Truman Dinner? If so, thank you

  8. Karen Hinks
    August 31, 2016 at 11:20 am

    You write about a woman who is a Latina. There is no need to “mention.” Donna is the subject of your post. And if, as you say, “her support network is the issue,” then you need to reference said “support networks” with all candidates you highlight in your posts with the same attention and emphasis as you did with Donna.

    • junior
      August 31, 2016 at 5:21 pm

      Your logic is ….. lacking ….

    • David Vasquez
      August 31, 2016 at 7:00 pm

      If this is the same Karen Hinks that is the director of WeLEAD OC, I find her comments incredibly hypocritical.

      I struggle to understand how Donna Michelle Ascevedo-Nelson could possibly be considered a role model for young women, given what I know about her.

      Note to the campaign, releasing a BIO might go a ways to deflecting some of the criticism.

      This comment was part of a takedown notice; with the exception of the last half of the last paragraph, the comment is “in-bounds.” It is not my practice to edit a comment — it usually all stays (typos and all) or it all comes down; there are exceptions to the rule so the offending portion of the paragraph has been edited/deleted.

    • August 31, 2016 at 7:03 pm

      No, I actually don’t. My point is the same. If Donna should be elected, she’d follow the script laid out for her by the OJ gang. The fact she’s a she and Latina is not relevant.

  9. September 1, 2016 at 8:08 am

    This goes up at the top of Dan’s most stupid and offensive posts, and there’s getting to be quite a list, most of them regarding Anaheim, Latinos and Donna (unfortunately some of them, like the one on what a great sign for Lorri Galloway’s campaign it was when the brilliant Pastor Stephanie Stieler left Tait for her, have been deleted.)

    He is really too stupid to see how he is sexist and racist. Here it is –

    1. he knows almost nothing about Donna beyond her gender and race.

    2. He knows nothing about her to make him draw the conclusion that she is an easily manipulated “puppet” who couldn’t possibly “understand the nuance of union contracts, bonds, financing, and city services”

    3. Everyone except for Dan, his anonymous hit men, and Mike Tardif can see the obvious – it’s nothing but her gender and race that make him think she’s an easily manipulated puppet who can’t understand complex matters. SEXIST DAN. RACIST.

    • September 1, 2016 at 8:21 am

      Nah, I’ve spoken with her several times. If this “attack” is sexist and racist, then perhaps your attacks on Jordan Brandman are anti-Semitic and homophobic? Same argument…. If Donna gets elected, I’m sure you guys will pour over the meeting board packet every other week and give her a cheat sheet on how to vote. I also think anything said in closed session will spill out onto your pages. You are unable to keep any confidences Vern; you prove it over and over.

      Keep shouting racist and sexist all you want. Her gender and ethnicity have nothing to do with the post at all.

    • Anonymous
      September 1, 2016 at 1:49 pm

      Would Mrs. Nelson discuss her family’s ties to known gangs in Anaheim? Was her father a gang member? Her first husband? Her son? Voters want to know

    • Gustavo Arellano
      September 1, 2016 at 2:29 pm

      That’s how the Blueviator rolls!

      • September 1, 2016 at 3:35 pm

        address Backpage.com when you’re ready

  10. September 1, 2016 at 9:42 am

    Thinking more seriously about Dan and his attack on Donna, and considering his writings as a whole, I’d correct myself and others that he is not as much sexist and racist as he is classist. Remember his constant boasting about the (alleged) success of his PR business, and his constant suggestions that he is better than me and Greg because he allegedly makes more money at PR than Greg does at law or me at music.

    I think it’s the fact that Donna is a Latina mother of five living in a working-class neighborhood and working as an apartment manager and medical assistant, that leads him to conclude that she couldn’t possibly understand fiscal and labor matters, and has to be a brainless puppet of us smartass bloggers.

    Sexist and racist, no doubt a little, but mostly classist. Okay, I’m going back to boycotting this sewer.

    • September 1, 2016 at 10:05 am

      You play the organ at a church but you’re an atheist. Greg hopes to make money suing governments on the grounds of “good government activism.” I’ve never been to jail. You have. I’ve never had a leadership position stripped from me with a 70% majority. Greg has. With very few exceptions for long time friends who run for non-partisan office, I always support Democrats. You guys don’t. You two don’t exactly place a very high bar to jump over. I’ll send you a flyer so you can buy a mattress for Lori’s kids at Eli Home this month.

      • September 1, 2016 at 10:10 am

        Take back “atheist,” that is libel here. You and Matt may not know the difference between atheist and agnostic, but most people do.

        This comment and subsequent replies we part of a take down notice from Mr. Nelson; that request is denied due to the interaction between myself and Mr. Nelson clearly demonstrates Mr. Nelson’s lack of understanding of what is libel and what it takes to prove libel against a public figure such as himself. I will correct a couple of typographical errors in one of my responses to him but the comment stays up.

        • September 1, 2016 at 12:04 pm

          An atheist lacks faith in God, believes there is no god, or lacks awareness of gods. An agnostic either believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God or is noncommittal on the issue. What would the pastor say of his organist? I apologize and suggest readers note that Vern is an agnostic and not an atheist, but still collects money for playing church hymns on Sundays.

          Libel of a public figure requires proving I knowingly wrote something about you that’s false with intent to harm your reputation. Since your reputation isn’t all that much, hard to argue harm.

          Does your pastor know you’re only in it for the money?

      • September 1, 2016 at 10:14 am

        Oh, and good job with the usual trick of ignoring and deflecting from the meat of a comment. I’ll take that as an admission that I’m right:

        “It’s the fact that Donna is a Latina mother of five living in a working-class neighborhood and working as an apartment manager and medical assistant, that leads him to conclude that she couldn’t possibly understand fiscal and labor matters, and has to be a brainless puppet of us smartass bloggers.”

        And my old friend who runs Eli Home spells her name “Lorri.”

        • September 1, 2016 at 11:58 am

          I thought I hit the “r” key twice; the mattress sale is next weekend; how many can I put you down for? I always buy 2

    • September 1, 2016 at 10:07 am

      PS I mean Hospice Care Provider.

      • September 1, 2016 at 12:29 pm

        you don’t even know what your wife does?

  11. junior
    September 1, 2016 at 10:56 am

    With due respect Vern, what qualifications does Donna have over others running for the same position to basically be a director on a board of a multi-million dollar public organization with all of the responsibilities that entails?

    • September 1, 2016 at 11:26 am

      She is AS QUALIFIED as anyone else running, because she is smart, a quick learner, has worked in several different fields, and has been paying close attention to Anaheim issues for four years.

      I believe she’s a better candidate than her three Republican opponents because unlike one she’s not owned by Disney and the Resorts, unlike another she is not a conservative Republican working for Shawn Nelson, and unlike the third she is not a minority-bashing Trump lover.

      • September 1, 2016 at 11:57 am

        she married you; how smart was that?

      • Anonymous
        September 1, 2016 at 2:11 pm

        She’s smart and a quick learner. First grade!

      • Mariana
        September 26, 2016 at 2:43 pm

        Listen to her speak. She seems at a loss to put forth any cogent statement on the many challenges facing the community she hopes to represent. She can’t even state what the larger issues are. When asked how her campaign is going she says she’s meeting people, that she knows.. y’know, there’s money, y’know, to get things fixed .. that y’know people need .. fixed.. cuz… y’know… She can’t put a statement together quickly enough in her head to make use of the time she’s given to speak. Not sure how she’d be an effective advocate or representative. She seems slow. Clearly, the people around her would be the brains behind her, if elected, and it’s doubtful that particular brain trust is to be trusted. You’ve read from the OJBlog.. right?

        • September 26, 2016 at 4:09 pm

          wow, I think Mariana just agreed with my premise

          • Mariana
            September 27, 2016 at 1:53 pm

            Look at Anaheim City Council minutes. You will see ‘Vern Nelson spoke on behalf of Donna Acevedo..’ He should be honest about it and run if he wants to be a leader in the community instead of being an annoying heel-nipper. Maybe it’s the reason he married her. She’ll probably have a whiz-bang campaign jingle though, sung way to often and way too loudly. (He should not sing in public and stick to the piano.)

            • September 27, 2016 at 2:39 pm

              Look at it this way; he doesn’t have to rent a room in Huntington Beach anymore; people bring food to the house and his wife will get a helpful cheat sheets to take with her to city council meetings

        • David Bartash
          September 26, 2016 at 5:38 pm

          Mariana –

          If you are a Anaheim District 5 voter, here is a link to a District 5 candidate forum that features Steve Faessel and Sandra Angel.

          http://www.anaheimblog.net/2016/09/23/video-district-4-candidate-forum-faessel-and-angel-answer-questions/

          Ms. Acevedo had originally committed to attending the event. She dropped out two days before the forum.

          I would love to read your thoughts about how Ms. Acevedo compares to the individuals in the video.

          Thanks

          • David Vasquez
            September 26, 2016 at 5:43 pm

            Mr. Bartash,

            How are we supposed to compare these candidates when two of them don’t show up?

            Is there a place we can here Donna speak on the issues? Will there be one?

            • David Bartash
              September 27, 2016 at 7:18 pm

              Mr. Vasquez,

              The next forum will be this Friday (Sep 30th) at 7:00 pm. It will be held at the Islamic Institute of Orange County on State College, near the 91 Freeway.

              This forum will be run by the Los Angeles Council on Islamic American Relations.

              For more information, you can check out http://www.iioc.com, CAIR-LA at 714-776-1847, or email info@losangeles.cair.org.

              Hopefully, all the District 5 candidates will be there.

              • David Vasquez
                September 29, 2016 at 7:47 pm

                Thank You.

                I will try to attend.

          • September 26, 2016 at 10:15 pm

            Go back and read my post.

            • David Bartash
              September 27, 2016 at 7:19 pm

              Actually, I was hoping Mariana would post her thoughts on the other candidates.

      • Mariana
        September 27, 2016 at 10:01 am

        ‘AS QUALIFIED’? Please…

        • OC DEM
          September 29, 2016 at 9:10 pm

          I was just sent the link to Mrs. Nelsons campaign webpage (Facebook). It includes an entry comtaining her husbands answers to the missed debate.

          Even if Donna did write, those which is doubful given comparisons to her speech pattern at previous council meetings, any ninth grader knows, you can’t make up the test after the rest of the class took it. It’s UNFAIR.
          Maybe she didn’t get that far in her formal education.

          Still it is impossible to believe Donna Aceveda-Nelson penned those with out the OJB editors help.

          • October 1, 2016 at 8:36 am

            Again, my point is proven over and over. Denials are lies

  12. OC DEM
    September 1, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    Donna is beginning to look and sound like Angie “Oliver” Amezcua, the Santa Ana city council women who only found her voice after her lawyer husband got taken to task for speaking on her behalf repeatedly. She finally started talking when it became apparrent je could not sit on the dias.

    If Donna has chosen to duputize her husband Vern and her friend Jeff thats fine, have the integrity to say so. Don’t hide in the weeds.

    I still don’t know a thing about her other than she grew up poor and had a litter of kids. How about some substantial background campaign manager, Nelson.

    I heard Carinna and Louis Aleman are’nt doing anything this election season! Maybe Donna can call them.

  13. David Bartash
    September 2, 2016 at 11:06 am

    By far, the most QUALIFIED candidate for District 5 is Steve Faessel. Here is a curriculum vitae of his civic service. Most, if not all, of these responsibilities were performed on a volunteer basis:
    – 5/2015 to present: Anaheim Director, Metropolitan Water District of Southern California (MWD)
    – 6/2014 to present: Anaheim Budget, Investment, & Technology Commission (Chair)
    – 2006 to present: Neighborhood advocate for the Five Coves, Santa Ana River Nature / Bicycle Trail. Instrumental in acquiring State of California Grant Funding.
    – 2013/2014: Community leader of the Stop The Power Plant collation that successfully opposed the 250MW CVP Power Plant Project at the Santa River / Ball Road Basin.
    – 6/2007 to 6/2013: Member for Anaheim’s Electric Public Utilities Undergrounding Sub-committee
    – 6/2006 to 6/2013: Anaheim Planning Commission
    – 6/2006 – 6/2007: Alternate for Anaheim’s Electric Public Utilities Undergrounding Sub-committee
    – 7/1998 to 6/2006: Anaheim Public Utilities (Chair from 8/1999-6/2006)
    – 2001 to 2004: Anaheim General Plan Advisory Committee

    His list of activities directly supporting the community (serving on museum boards,historical societies, charitable organizations, teaching ROP courses) is even more extensive.

    He also has a proven track record as a successful business executive (just recently retired).

    Yet, Vern Nelson dismisses all of this by saying, “He’s owned by Disney and the Resorts”. Perhaps, Mr. Nelson should have asked Cynthia Ward to educate him on Mr. Faessel’s level of dedication and love for our city before making such an ignorant remark.

    I don’t doubt the veracity of Mr. Nelson’s claim that his wife is smart and a fast learner. However, people rely on that claim when they are seeking a position and have no record of accomplishment proving they are qualified for the role.

    I do believe that Ms. Acevedo-Nelson is more qualified than the other two District 5 candidates. Her son’s death instilled in her a desire to be aware of what goes on in our city government. She has attended many city council meetings and has lived in what is now District 5 for a while.

    Another candidate, Mark Lopez, was still unpacking his carpet bags when he announced his intent to run for the district. He does boast being a City Commissioner, but he only served on the Anaheim Sister City Commission. It’s the only commission that allows non-residents to participate. It’s also the civic service equivalent to a remedial Math course in college. It’s a good place to start to understand how things work, but is nothing compared to the level of responsibilities in the other commissions.

    I wish Mr. Lopez would have not waited until after voter districts were approved before deciding to move from Westminster into our district. Stunts like that destroy his credibility. I also wish he would have waited to build his own list of city specific civic accomplishments before running for the position.

    As far as Ms. Angel is concerned, she has no money, no experience and no clue what she’s doing.

    • September 3, 2016 at 6:13 am

      Yeah maybe “owned by” was too harsh, these people put me in a bad mood with their constant attacks on my wife. But he IS a longtime member of SOAR, is funded by them, Disney, the Chamber, and the actual hotels who received the latest subsidies, so he can be expected to vote that way, something this town doesn’t need more of.

      Donna looks forward to debating these matters with Steve at the Chamber forum later this month.

      • Anonymous
        September 27, 2016 at 1:11 pm

        Your wife is as dumb as a bag of rocks. It’s not libelous if it’s true

        • Anonymous
          September 29, 2016 at 1:32 pm

          I read the DA’s report. Joel had meth in his system when he died. Will Vern deny this?

    • Anonymous
      September 30, 2016 at 1:19 pm

      Mrs. Nelson had her lawsuit against Anaheim PD dismissed. Her choir boy son had traces of meth in his system when he died. His DNA was on the gun.

  14. OC DEM
    September 2, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    this comment is deleted

  15. Daniel Cardeneas
    September 2, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    It is apparent that “Team Donna” is disiplined in one area: avoiding at all costs, any discussion of her ties to criminal street gangs, especially AVLS, of which her son was foot soldier.

    Now repeated rumors here and from freshly DELETED comments at the OJB suspect, her Father and husband were jumped in members.

    I’ll leave this question for Donna to answer:
    What is your relationship with “Lucky Acevedo Veloz”? It appears he has your name tattooed on his body
    It also appears he is in prison.
    See his FB Profile

  16. September 3, 2016 at 6:26 am

    Everyone’s been telling me to stay away from here, but there are too many anonymous lies on this page I can’t just leave unanswered.

    Of course Donna is not and was never a gang member, neither was her father or Joey’s father, to whom she was OF COURSE married – that’s where “Acevedo” comes from. Donna (as well as her four surviving children) have always been against gangs, something Joel was daily reminded of.

    There’s some anonymous pr*ck who’s been commenting everywhere, including here, and trying to print on my blog, that there are Facebook pictures of Joel posing with a gun. No such pictures exist or ever existed. This guy who thinks he’s so smart is confusing Joel with MANUEL DIAZ – two guys who don’t even look alike, lived in different neighborhoods, and didn’t know each other.

    A cheat sheet for you wise guys:

    Manuel unfortunately took some tough-guy pics a few years before he was killed, posing with a gun and some friends and throwing gang signs. Still, he never owned a gun and was completely unarmed when Officer Bennallack shot him. Besides that, Bennallack had no idea who Manuel was, and had no idea about those old pictures, hence when the 2014 jury was told about the pictures over and over by Anaheim’s attorney Moses Johnson, it was completely irrelevant, as the 9th Circuit Court just ruled while reversing that jury’s verdict.

    Joel, on the other hand, was never known to have, or seen with, or photographed with a gun in his life. But Officer Phillips, after he killed him, claimed Joel was shooting at him (a claim disputed by witnesses), and later when Joel was dead photographed him with a gun lying between his feet.

    If this a**hole keeps claiming there are photographs of LIVING Joel with a gun, he needs to produce them – he can’t because they don’t exist and never existed. So if he keeps saying they exist he’s libeling Joel, and so is any blog that prints his libel.

    (PS I know Dan is allowing all this because he thinks Ricardo calling him a “Pringle Puppet” on my blog is also libel – laughable – that’s Ricardos’ opinion, that’s how it appears to Ricardo and I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t call Dan a Pringle Puppet myself. I know that the reason he’s always in agreement with Pringle is not because Pringle tells him what to do, but because he automatically defends anything Jordan Brandman does, and automatically attacks anything Tom Tait does, which makes him pretty much close to 100% in agreement with Pringle on just about everything.)

    Good bye again, try not to print too many more malicious lies.

    • September 3, 2016 at 8:31 am

      You keep saying good bye but you never leave.

      A few things. Bravo to Ricardo for his Fox News/Breitbart inspired attack. Say something offensive, attribute it to Donald Trump and say I must agree with that. Inject the syllogism method of reasoning to make a third point that must be true because the first two were. Regarding the 9th Circuit Court’s ruling on Manuel Diaz, the courts got it right. In the shooting death of Joel Acevedo, I believe Donna’s wrongful death suit failed due to the lack of any new evidence. Vern keeps saying “witnesses” when there was only one. Publicly available investigative reports don’t support the notion Joel was handcuffed and executed. Vern should know this, but you cannot libel someone who’s dead.

      For Paul Lucas/Henry Lipton, I have never once said it was ok for Curt Pringle to place guards at a polling place. Not once. I wasn’t even living in California when that happened Again, Paul got there from the syllogism method of reasoning. So let’s try this. Paul smokes lots of medical marijuana. Paul appears to be mentally unstable when he shows up online. Too much medical marijuana affected Pail’s judgement. Or, he had a lot of time to come up with that claim while he sat in jail.

      I stand by my post which never mentioned Donna’s gender or ethnicity. The post also didn’t say not to vote for her. It’s sort of “is this the best we can do?” Which Vern’s blog has done several times in even bigger races. I do think Donna is a nice person. I just think she’ll be in over her head on council. And the OJ guys will serve as her surrogates and tell her how to vote on every item.

      One more thing. Vern, as her husband, stands to financially benefit from her election. Now I know council members don’t make much which is why getting Donna on multiple boards could be downright profitable. Vern and Greg get to affect policy and there’s some bubblegum money.

      I am also looking forward to hearing Donna debate. Problem is, everytime Vern comes to her defense, he proves my point.

      • junior
        September 4, 2016 at 4:32 am

        “You keep saying good bye but you never leave.”

        Was that a song by the B-52’s?

    • David Vasquez
      September 3, 2016 at 2:46 pm

      Comment deleted.

      • September 4, 2016 at 12:20 pm

        That was Jay-Zee and Beyonce, you FLAMING RETARD!

        The girl who had that picture up has blocked it now, because too many creeps were crawling onto her wall from over here. (I didn’t know this blog even HAD more than ten readers… I guess it does when Dan writes about US.). I wish she hadn’t.

        And Dan knows that was Jay-Zee and Beyonce. Way to keep your commenters honest, champ!

        As for Fake Vasquez, I would strongly consider never commenting again, after a move so hateful AND stupid. Stick to your strong suits, masturbation and Facebook trolling.

        • David Vasqez
          September 4, 2016 at 12:41 pm

          All I did was google Joel “Yogi” Acevedo or some dirivitive ad it took me there.

          So I was wrong. But what about the claim that the kid was a gang member, and how does someone 5’5″ tall and 28″ inseam put his leg over center console of an SUV and press the glass as Vanessa Duran claimed?

          Is Donna plastic man’s mother.

          Sorry about the picture, never know what your going to get on the internet.

        • September 4, 2016 at 5:15 pm

          I’ll take 2 minutes out of my weekend to respond. Many commenters here comment and are not in moderation. Vern is one of them. I don’t check in on comments during the weekend because I have an actual life. Commenters are responsible for their comments. If they cross the line, comments get deleted. Mr. Vasquez can attest that not every comment he posts here gets published and gets taken down.

          I can’t tell who is in the photo. If that’s JayZ ( that’s how it’s spelled Vern) it’s a really bad photo. Beyoncé? I’m thinking at best a lookalike couple. But I can’t tell who it is because it’s dark and grainy.

          Vern, you have your share of hateful and stupid commenters too. Tell Paul Lucas I said hello. And please don’t bitch about commenters libeling you again. You may not like Curt Pringle, but calling him a Nazi and suggesting he’s a KKK member crosses the line for libeling a public figure. Too bad Paul and you and Greg have nothing to sue for

    • September 6, 2016 at 10:30 am

      Diaz never owned a gun? From the Orange County Register: Diaz served time for possession of a gun on school grounds and a criminal street gang enhancement, and had pleaded guilty to drug possession charges in 2008 and 2011 Perhaps it wasn’t his gun on school grounds but someone else’s.

  17. Michelle
    September 3, 2016 at 11:18 am

    Steve Faessle is the most perfectly qualified candidate for an Anaheim City Council seat that I’ve seen in my 20 years in this town. He’s been on more boards and commissions than everyone writing here combined, is not in anyone’s pocket, has a better understanding of how this city works than anyone running in any district save for the one incumbent, and has an even-keeled, good-natured temperament that, frankly, will be refreshing to see on the City Council.

  18. OC DEM
    September 3, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    Uh oh. Time for “crazy Greg” to get with Facebook on that takedown notice.

    Vern, will you retract and apologize?

    • September 4, 2016 at 1:21 pm

      Huh?

      See above, putz.

  19. September 5, 2016 at 8:33 am

    Mr. Chmielewski, here is my formal takedown notice. Immediately remove the following slanderous comments. (Or, better yet, taking down this whole stupid story would also suffice.)

    From the top (not worst first)
    Advocate, Sept 2, 2:04 pm
    OC DEM, Sept 2, 5:31 pm
    Anonymous, Sept 2, 1:55 pm
    Anonymous, Sept 2, 1:57 pm
    APD SUPPORTER, Aug. 30, 4:40 pm
    David Vasquez, Aug. 31, 7 pm
    Anonymous, Sept. 1, 1:49 pm
    Dan Chmielewski, Sept. 1, 10:05 am
    (and responses to that – Vern 10:10 am, Dan 12:04p pm, Dan 10:14 am, Vern 11:58 am)
    OC Dem, Sept 2, 12:22 pm

    …And, much as I love Vasquez’ JayZ faceplant,, that’s also attempted libel:
    David Vasquez Sept 3, 2:46 pm, and its responses:
    Vern Sept 4, 12:20 pm; David Vasquez Sept 4, 12:41 pm; Dan Sept 4, 5:15 pm; OC DEM Sept 3, 9:49 pm; Vern Sept 4, 1:21 pm.

    I’ll check later today to make sure those are all gone.

    • September 5, 2016 at 9:12 am

      I will review your list when I can get to it today

      • junior
        September 5, 2016 at 9:41 am

        Vern declined to take down a threatening comment directed at my daughters and me.

      • September 5, 2016 at 11:09 am

        As Vern loves to republish my texts, this came in from Donna Acevedo to my cell phone on Saturday night; I did not respond. Typed exactly.

        Donna: That’s not a picture of my son. Thats a rapper. My son is mexican not black. They dont all look the same.

        Donna: Its JayZ and Beyonce

        Donna: And btw….

        Donna: My first husband is not my ex husband.

        Donna: He was killed on October 13, 2003. Stabbed to death in his sleep.

        Donna: He didn’t have an AVLS tattoo. But he did have one of my name on his arm.

        Donna: Nor was he a gang member from ANY gang.

        • September 5, 2016 at 12:45 pm

          Happy now? Dan? “Vasquez?”

          Donna didn’t feel like telling the whole world what happened to her husband Robert Acevedo. But I guess this is good payback for me sharing your thoughts on primary June 2016.

          Robert, if he weren’t murdered, would never have allowed Joey to fall in with a bad crowd.

          Time to bring down the so-called “LiberalOC” once and for all.

          • junior
            September 5, 2016 at 1:26 pm

            Vern declined to take down a threatening comment directed at my daughters and me.

          • Anonymous
            September 5, 2016 at 1:35 pm

            What was the motive for stabbing someone in their sleep?

          • September 5, 2016 at 1:59 pm

            Oh and I forgot this one; last Wednesday, cell phone goes off and I miss a call from Vern Nelson

            My text to Vern: What?
            Dan: You called me. What?

            Vern: Shut the fuck up. Answer your phone prick. Donna is calling.

            Dan: I’m out to lunch; too loud to hear.

            Vern: Chicken Shit

            Tell me again how you’re not going to manage her affairs.

          • Anonymous
            September 5, 2016 at 3:33 pm

            Joey fell in with a bad crowd!!!??? Where was his mom?

            • September 5, 2016 at 9:35 pm

              I’d swear, from Vern’s descriptions, he’s a choir boy.

    • September 5, 2016 at 11:01 am

      Vern –
      I have reviewed your take down notices and have removed some of the them but not most of them. Your reference that David Vasquez’s JayZ faceplant was attempted libel (no such law exists) is wrong on its face because you cannot libel a dead person and living family members cannot sue for defamation on behalf of their departed family member.

      I will note the Orange County Register reported in July 2012 that “(Joel) Acevedo served prison time for street terrorism and receiving stolen property, and in 2010 pleaded guilty to resisting a police officer.” Not quite the boy scout you portray him to be is he? The California Street Terrorism Enforcement and Protection Act, or STEP Act, is known as California’s street gang enhancement law. Multiple news reports in 2012 identified Joel Acevedo as a “suspected gang member.” You have a lot of work ahead of you on correcting the record there – USA Today, the LA Times, the Associated Press….they all published that information and a reasonable person would accept this as a fact.

      I find it ironic that Paul Lucas threatens Mike Tardif on your blog and your solution is to temporarily ban Tardif? Paul repeated makes the claim I think its’ OK for Curt Pringle to have called on guards at polling places — something that happened before I moved here; I think it’s evidence that Paul is mentally unbalanced and a charade you allow to continue with his imaginary friend Henry Lipton.

      Might I suggest you police some of your own comments better; you do not honor every takedown request yourself. Additionally, Donna should be the one requesting any take down notice. By serving these up, you prove the central thesis to my post. She needs surrogates to tell her what to do or they take it upon themselves to do what she should do.

      • junior
        September 5, 2016 at 2:06 pm

        Does everyone know that Vern declined to take down a threatening comment directed at my daughters and me?

  20. junior
    September 5, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    Vern declined to take down a threatening comment on his OJ blog directed at my daughters and me.

  21. Anonymous
    September 5, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    With the text messages from Donna and Vern posted, looks like Vern got a taste of his own medicine.

  22. David Vasquez
    September 5, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Yeah we heard……..Again and again and again.

    You should just kick his a$$, if you are that bothered by the guy.

    Consider yourself lucky, in an effort to deflect MY honest criticism, Greg Diamond labeled me “FAKE Vasquez”, Calling me a “FAKE Mexican” and then his little buddy jumped on the bandwagon, when I took the bait and researched the post about the Gang kid and the gun. Now apparently “Vern” and his council candidate wife have gone on the offensive.

    I get that my search turned up a routine picture, maybe Mrs. Nelson should look at google too.

    As for the delusional, Greg Diamond, there is nothing I can do or say, that this nutjob hasn’t already done to himself, as I have explained a DOZEN times, my friends who are intimately involved in the DPOC, constantly harp this “Bigmouth”, “Blowhard”, “MKIA (Mr. Know it All)”…..I could go on and on. Everybody knows, heck, he knows. Greg, you do what you feel you need to do. You have called my place of employment, you seem intent on “Tracking Me Down”. You should start in the white pages, where I am listed. You could then ask some of your colleagues at the DPOC. Greg has more time on his hands than I do, so Coco Puff might take a round or two, but, it’s only in the cloudy space of his mind that this is a bout.

  23. junior
    September 5, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    Email from Greg Diamond to me:

    “At this moment, I intend to lodge letters addressed to the Santa Ana and Orange Police Departments with my own attorney with instructions regarding what seems to be a threat to Paul Lucas based on your groundless inference that his saying that he would visit your shop to talk to you in person is a “threat to your family.” .Pray for his continued good health. If you want to reach me again, please use an intermediary.”

    I’m scared …… ha – ha – ha – ha – ha – ha – ha – ha !!!!!

    • Anonymous
      September 5, 2016 at 7:07 pm

      Paul Lucas is a weed infused gun nut who knows what being behind bars looks like

    • September 5, 2016 at 9:34 pm

      Paul has guns and isn’t rational. Would this be a Violation of his probation?

  24. September 6, 2016 at 10:59 am

    The worst people in the world.

    Here

    At the”Liberal OC.”

    ALL anonymous. Except for Dan.

    What a travesty.

    • junior
      September 6, 2016 at 12:29 pm

      The Federalist Papers were written under the pseudonym Publius by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay promoting the ratification of the United States Constitution.

    • September 6, 2016 at 7:10 pm

      And you have the Hateful 8 over there. You, Diamond, Cantor, Zenger, Ward, Lucas, Ricardo, and Henry Lipton. Is that 7 or 8?

  25. junior
    September 6, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    Vern Nelson – Since the OJ blog belongs to you – please tell me why I have been banned from commenting there.

  26. Anonymous
    September 6, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    i don’t need Greg Diamond hunting me down. You should be ashamed for yourself, trying to recreate gang members as Angels. Facts matter Nelson

  27. David Vasquez
    September 6, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    Someone claiming to be Greg Diamond, leaving Greg’s name, number, address and EMAIL called my place of employment today. I don’t believe it was “Crazy Greg”. He issued all kinds of accusations. , hallow and wrong, accusing me of being someone else.

    I of course told our head of security, a retired cop that this was likely a prank and Greg was harmless, but I made sure to describe Greg as a “Cop Hater”.

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