“Evenly Split” Crowd Greets Obama in Newport Beach

 

 

 

Update: Media reports suggest Obama raised $1.4 million in Orange County today.  The event amount of Obama supporters to Obama protestors is a victory for OC Democrats.

Hat tip to OC Weekly for this story about the “evenly split” crowd of 500 protesting the President’s visit to Newport Beach this morning and supporting the President’s visit to Southern California.

For conservatives, this event, during an election year of all times, and the best they can do is muster a split decision with liberals, Democrats and other left0wing socialists means you can no longer call OC a “Red County.”

Our hat is off to Nick Anas and the volunteers with the DPOC who organized a rally to counter the right wing protests with less than 24 hours notice.  Our side had about the same number as theirs. 

Moxley didn’t miss the birthers, hypocrites and whack jobs in his coverage.  From his story:

“…an evenly split crowd of perhaps 500 protesters and fans of Barack Obama have lined up on the sidewalks of swank, oceanfront Corona del Mar in anticipation of the president’s arrival for a fund-raising event at a private residence.

Obama’s fans are holding signs that thank him for his policies against “hate” and “warmongering,” while his critics are blasting him as pro-abortion, pro-socialism, pro-debt and pro-wealth redistribution.

“Obama is a socialist,” one elderly, white-haired woman told reporters. “I want him to stop taking our hard-earned money and giving to other people. We work hard for what we have. It’s not fair.”

But Alice Apkarian, 55, is happy the president is coming to OC.

“We just want to show that Orange County isn’t the monolith everybody thinks it is,” she told the Weekly.

Laura Dietz believes Obama needs to be removed from power because she supports “freedom from government interference–interference with my personal life. It’s unconstitutional.”

Dietz added, “My rights do not come from the government. According to the Founding Fathers, they come from the Almighty.”

I love when right wingers quot ethe Fouding Fathers out of context.  Here’s what NOBelief’s.com wrote about Thomas Jefferson’s contributioon to the Constitution:

Although the Constitution does not include the phrase “Separation of Church & State,” neither does it say “Freedom of religion.” However, the Constitution implies both in the 1st Amendment. As to our freedoms, the 1st Amendment provides exclusionary wording:

Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Thomas Jefferson made an interpretation of the 1st Amendment to his January 1st, 1802 letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association calling it a “wall of separation between church and State.” Madison had also written that “Strongly guarded. . . is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States.” There existed little controversy about this interpretation from our Founding Fathers.

If religionists better understood the concept of separation of Church & State, they would realize that the wall of separation actually protects their religion. Our secular government allows the free expression of religion and non-religion. Today, religions flourish in America; we have more churches than Seven-Elevens.

And since there is a reference to a Creator in the Declaration of Independence, this notation:

“…the Declaration of Independence does not represent any law of the United States. It came beforethe establishment of our lawful government (the Constitution). The Declaration aimed at announcing the separation of America from Great Britain and it listed the various grievances with them. The Declaration includes the words, “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America.” The grievances against Great Britain no longer hold today, and we have more than thirteen states.

Although the Declaration may have influential power, it may inspire the lofty thoughts of poets and believers, and judges may mention it in their summations, it holds no legal power today. It represents a historical document about rebellious intentions against Great Britain at a time before the formation of our government.

Of course the Declaration stands as a great political document. Its author aimed at a future government designed and upheld by people and not based on a superstitious god or religious monarchy. It observed that all men “are created equal” meaning that we all have the natural ability of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That “to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.” Please note that the Declaration says nothing about our rights secured by Christianity. It bears repeating: “Governments are instituted among men.”

The pursuit of happiness does not mean a guarantee of happiness, only that we have the freedom to pursue it. Our Law of the Land incorporates this freedom of pursuit in the Constitution. We can believe or not believe as we wish. We may succeed or fail in our pursuit, but our Constitution (and not the Declaration) protects our unalienable rights in our attempt at happiness.

Moreover, the mentioning of God in the Declaration does not describe the personal God of Christianity. Thomas Jefferson who held deist beliefs, wrote the majority of the Declaration. The Declaration describes “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.” This nature’s view of God agrees with deist philosophy and might even appeal to those of pantheistical beliefs, but any attempt to use the Declaration as a support for Christianity will fail for this reason alone.

Let’s review the Bill of Rights for a moment: 

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

So if the freedom to puursue happiness is a right bestowed upon man by their Creator, why are most Republicans opposed to Gay Marriage?  By opposing Gay Marriage, aren’t they denying a right of men (and women) to pursue happiness by marrying the person they love?

Dietz can come here and explain this one to us.

Photo credit: USAToday.

 

  19 comments for ““Evenly Split” Crowd Greets Obama in Newport Beach

  1. February 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    Is it a typo?
    Obama’s fans are holding signs that thank him for his policies against “hate” and “warmongering,”

    Against “Warmongering” – really? Not in Syria. Not in Libya.
    “LaRouche Denounces Obama’s Homicidal Hypocrisy”
    http://larouchepac.com/node/21567

    “Question 5: Consequences of the Fall of Assad”
    http://larouchepac.com/node/21465
    6:09 minute video

    • Greg Diamond
      February 17, 2012 at 11:41 am

      Why does your website say “Lauten for Congress” (which usually refers to races for the House of Representatives) when the ocvote.com website says that you instead took out papers for Senate? Did Orly Taitz scare you out of the Senate race?

  2. junior
    February 16, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    “.. you can no longer call OC a “Red County.”

    Whhaaatttt !!

    2010 OC General Election for Governor:
    60% Republican/Conservative
    40% Democratic/Liberal

    We can color the OC solidly Red.

    • February 16, 2012 at 4:57 pm

      Purple Junior….take 60 percent red paint and mix with 40 percent blue, tell me what you get

      • junior
        February 17, 2012 at 7:09 am

        What you get is a Republican landslide victory in the OC.

    • Greg Diamond
      February 17, 2012 at 11:35 am

      As Jerry Brown’s 2010 Campaign Co-Coordinator in OC, I can tell you one of the reasons for that: Brown barely campaigned here at all. We received almost no resources from the state party; county party resources were directed overwhelmingly towards Loretta Sanchez’s campaign (and to a lesser extent Phu Nguyen’s) at the expense of statewide races.

      What active campaigning we were able to do for Brown was largely accomplished by riding on the backs of Beth Krom’s and Melissa Fox’s campaigns in the Irvine area and Esiquio Uballe’s campaign in the Fullerton area.

      Barbara Boxer’s campaign, and those of other state executive officer candidates (with the notable exception of Dave Jones), also had almost no presence in OC. Meg Whitman, by contrast, was highly active here, sharing a luxurious and prominent campaign office with Van Tran.

      Unsurprisingly, I argued strongly at the time against Democrats cutting OC loose like this, especially because I was concerned that it might prevent Kamala Harris from winning her race — as almost happened. I recognize that Brown was conserving his money and so from a statewide perspective it might have made sense — but it seemed short-sighted. Without the County Party pushing back against it, though, it was inevitable.

      In any event, therefore, what these results show is that with Democrats essentially conceding OC to the Republicans — with exceptions to varying degrees in Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Irvine, Fullerton, and the strong local effort in Huntington Beach, most of which did not focus on the Governor’s race at all — Democrats still got 40% of the vote.

      If that result leads you towards complacency, though — great!

  3. junior
    February 16, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    A “wall of separation.” Oh really? Not so fast!

    From the Library of Congress website:
    “Jefferson was motivated .. by a realization that these words, written in haste to make a political statement, did not accurately reflect the conviction he had reached by the beginning of 1802 on the role of government in religion. Jefferson would never compromise his views that there were things government could not do in the religious sphere — legally establish one creed as official truth and support it with its full financial and coercive powers. But by 1802, he seems to have come around to (the view that) provided the state kept within its well-appointed limits, it could provide “friendly aids” to the churches, including putting at their disposal public property ..”

    http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danbury.html

  4. Occupy Limousine Liberals
    February 16, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    A good money haul from Democrat Party One Percenters of the OC!

    • Greg Diamond
      February 17, 2012 at 11:20 am

      It’s interesting, this misconception that the Occupy movement is “against the richest 1%.” That 1% include some excellent, compassionate, dedicated people; by far most Occupiers don’t wish them ill. This movement is not about making rich people poor.

      What we don’t want is for the 1% to be able to use their wealth to corrupt the political system — especially at the expense of the 99%. Those 1%ers who don’t want to do so are fine. I have my issues with some Democratic Party 1%ers, but by and large they’re good people (relative to those 1%ers not involved in progressive politics) who truly want to see all boats rise on the tide, rather than watching everyone else’s boats sink.

      I am surprised that this seems too complicated for some people to understand.

      • junior
        February 17, 2012 at 11:34 am

        So what the DO the unwashed 99%ers want? – in concrete terms please.

        • Greg Diamond
          February 17, 2012 at 11:38 am

          Are you asking about the unwashed ones only, or all of us?

          Tell you what, junior — I’ll happily give you the answers to that question (which are readily available on the Internet) if you first explain to me how you pursued your failed attempt to find them yourself.

          • Occupy Limousine Liberals
            February 19, 2012 at 8:38 am

            Pity the First Lady who is having to holiday in Aspen with all those One Percenters.

            Hopefully they are “good and washed kind of One Percenters” – the Limousine Liberal kind.

            I wonder if the First Lady and her hosts discuss how they transported themselves to Aspen and whether the FLOTUS complains that her Limos have government license plates on them and her jet is a public, not private ride?

            • February 19, 2012 at 11:09 am

              Nothin’ like the comically misplaced class envy of a rightie sheeple who gets herded to the polls to vote against his own interests every election season.

              Or does the pobrecito really think he’s uncovered some sort of liberal hypocrisy?

              Keep entertaining us, clown…

            • February 19, 2012 at 7:31 pm

              What exactly is wrong with someone being a limousine liberal?

  5. February 17, 2012 at 10:49 am

    “Absolute Necessity of Removing Obama.”
    Leading African-American Radio Host in Columbus, Ohio, Khari Enaharo interviews, full of praise for Lyndon LaRouche, whom he calls, “a phenomenal economist,” “a phenomenal guy,” today, Friday, Feb. 17, 2012.

    Click on http://larouchepac.com/printmail/21613 for the full half hour interview, live this morning.

    Meanwhile, the man, whose sick soul has been bought and paid for by the British Empire, the puppet and lackey, Barack Obama,demonstrates his continuing willingness to do the Empire’s dirty work.
    Dan, please let me know what you think AFTER you listen to the Columbus, Ohio interview of LaRouche.
    You say a lot of nasty things about Larouche which demonstrate you know nothing.

  6. February 18, 2012 at 10:02 am

    “Democratic Senator Tom Harkin Blasts Obama”

    Read about Long Time Democratic Senator Tom Harkin blasts Obama, “I never thought I’d live to see the day when a Democratic President….. would agree to put Social Security in this kind of jeopardy….”
    Oh, Danny Boy, let’s see you sing your way out of this one….
    Click on http://larouchepac.com/node/21619 for the full story.
    Oh, where of where are the OC Liberals when you really need them???
    You and your guy, Obama selling out social security!!! Shocking But True!!!!
    Dan, Don’t You Really Want to Change the Name of Your Blog to “OC NeoConMen Blog!”

    • February 18, 2012 at 10:22 am

      Still waiting for you to defend LaRouche’s jail time Gerald. Thanks for reading

  7. Occupy Limousine Liberals
    February 19, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Begin with a “do as I say” and NOT “do as I do” behavior and attitude.

    In other words, many Limousine Liberals do not lead by example, as in vacationing in Hawaii and Aspen when the rank-and-file are trying to make ends meet.

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