Open Carry Advocates Demonstrate Their Sense of Good Judgment In Lake Forest

Spencer Kornhaber of Lake Forest Patch reported yesterday on an open carry gun rights demonstration outside a Corner Bakery Restaurant in Lake Forest on Sunday.

Before a group of gun owners gathered outside Lake Forest’s Corner Bakery Sunday with weapons holstered but visible, Robert Cowdell said he and other participants debated whether the timing was right to flash firearms publicly, given the recent shooting outside a Tucson grocery store that killed six people and wounded a congresswoman.

The verdict?

“Absolutely it’s a great time to do it,” Cowdell said while sitting at an outdoor table in a collared white shirt, a Glock strapped to his hip. “We can’t just let ourselves be massacred. We’re here to be able to defend ourselves if the need arises.”

Really? These people thought that 8 days after the shooting in Tucson was a good time to walk around a shopping center with their guns strapped to their hips?

I’ve got a question for Mr. Cowdell. What need do you think is going to arise in the 7th safest city in the United States?

Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should do it.

  9 comments for “Open Carry Advocates Demonstrate Their Sense of Good Judgment In Lake Forest

  1. jose s.
    January 17, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    just more scared white folk acting insane.

  2. cook
    January 17, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Weighted averages

    In non-war zones. Who are the shooter’s

    (1) Government employees cops

    (2) Criminals

    (3) Citizens

    If the sole propose is to lower gun related deaths, then disarm the government police forces.

  3. January 18, 2011 at 5:24 am

    Wow. Two hit pieces on the Second Amendment in two days. That must be a record or something. On the first piece, written by Dan, the OCL decides to blow things out of proportion by headlining with a firearm that is not available in California. In this one, you simply leave out facts. Good reporting.

    So, for the uninformed, remember that the two people who tackled the shooter in Arizona were both CCW holders. At least one was carrying at the time and chose, through good judgment that he learned in training, not to shoot.

    7th safest city? By whose standard? Yours? Mine? Some magazine based on “data”? Where is Irvine on that list? This would be the Irvine, California, where a few years ago a young man dressed as a ninja ran into an Alberstons and started hacking at people. Where is Santa Ana on that list? I’m not sure what the body count it today, but it did not take long after the new year for them to have a homicide.

    Has anyone ever been shot by anyone at a Starbucks or a Corner Bakery, or anywhere for that matter, by a person legally carrying a firearm, loaded or otherwise, in this county?

    Oh, and I could have sworn this hit piece, when it first appeared, was much longer and included interviews with people on both sides of the issue. But, I guess you ran out of editorial room on your blog to post the entire thing. I know I get a error message when I get too wordy….

    Try sticking to facts rather than making the facts fit. Oh, and did you know that Gabrielle Giffords is a proud gun owner that stands up for the 2nd Amendment?

    Maybe we should license bloggers. Certainly you would agree the pen is as mighty as the sword.

    • January 18, 2011 at 8:22 am

      Neither of the people who tackled the assassin were carrying a concealed firearm. One person arriving on scene who was carrying almost shot one of the heros.

      The crime stats are linked through hyperlink on the 7th safest statistics based on FBI uniform crime statistics.

      • kepdapeace
        January 18, 2011 at 10:17 am

        Wrong, wrong, wrong. At least one of the men tackling the individuals was armed but chose not to shoot.

        • January 18, 2011 at 11:00 am

          Not true. The Guy who was armed arrived at the scene of the shooting after the shooter had been disarmed. He ultimately made the correct decision not to shoot the person in control of the gun given the fact that it was one of the actual heros who had the gun taken from the shooter.

          • Keep da Peace
            January 18, 2011 at 11:20 pm

            Chris, the guy he almost shot was ARMED. That’s why he almost shot him. Then he realized he was another CCW and did not shoot. He did not even unholster his weapon. And, btw, msnbc is the last place I would be looking for unbiased news reporting (besides the OCLib).

            • January 19, 2011 at 12:17 am

              Um, I don’t know where you are gettting your information, but there is no indication, in ANY NEWS REPORT, that anyone other than Joe Zamudio was a CCW permit holder, or armed. Please, feel free to post a link to your source. That’s the least you can do before accusing me of biased reporting.

              “I came out of that store, I clicked the safety off, and I was ready,” he explained on Fox and Friends. “I had my hand on my gun. I had it in my jacket pocket here. And I came around the corner like this.” Zamudio demonstrated how his shooting hand was wrapped around the weapon, poised to draw and fire. As he rounded the corner, he saw a man holding a gun. “And that’s who I at first thought was the shooter,” Zamudio recalled. “I told him to ‘Drop it, drop it!’ ”

              But the man with the gun wasn’t the shooter. He had wrested the gun away from the shooter. “Had you shot that guy, it would have been a big, fat mess,” the interviewer pointed out.

              Zamudio agreed:

              I was very lucky. Honestly, it was a matter of seconds. Two, maybe three seconds between when I came through the doorway and when I was laying on top of [the real shooter], holding him down. So, I mean, in that short amount of time I made a lot of really big decisions really fast. … I was really lucky.

              The Arizona Daily Star reported: As he grabbed the older man’s wrist to wrestle the gun away, bystanders yelled that he had the wrong man – it was the man on the ground who they said had attacked them and U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz. The gun the older man was holding had been wrestled away from the shooter. Police later identified 22-year-old Jared Lee Loughner as the suspect.

              “I could have very easily done the wrong thing and hurt a lot more people,” said Zamudio, who helped subdue the suspect until authorities arrived.

  4. Keep da Peace
    January 19, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Chris, I will retract my statement as I can longer find the link to the story I used as the basis of my claim. Also, I apologize to you because, in the heat of the moment. I accused you of being biased when I know you not to be, at least other than being a democrat (yes it’s levity)

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