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	<title>Comments on: Chris Norby: Opportunist or Revolutionary?</title>
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	<description>Challenging Orange County&#039;s right-wing noise machine</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a reasonable assumption; in the minutes one of the councilmembers -- the late, unlamented Mike Clesceri, I believe -- mentioned Fullerton was then the only municipality that hadn&#039;t granted 3-at-50 for public safety employees.

Still, that&#039;s a big detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a reasonable assumption; in the minutes one of the councilmembers &#8212; the late, unlamented Mike Clesceri, I believe &#8212; mentioned Fullerton was then the only municipality that hadn&#8217;t granted 3-at-50 for public safety employees.</p>
<p>Still, that&#8217;s a big detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Prevatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Prevatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the problem with meeting minutes, they are rarely specific in all details. It is my understanding the the agreement changed the pension plans for all fire and police officers to 3% @ 50. As this was the standard for other agencies and the decision was based upon the desire the maintain parity, I believe the change moved all existing members of the plan to 3% @ 50 for all prior years of service. If I am wrong, I welcome correction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the problem with meeting minutes, they are rarely specific in all details. It is my understanding the the agreement changed the pension plans for all fire and police officers to 3% @ 50. As this was the standard for other agencies and the decision was based upon the desire the maintain parity, I believe the change moved all existing members of the plan to 3% @ 50 for all prior years of service. If I am wrong, I welcome correction.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not defending the vote, Chris, but where in the minutes does it indicate the increase was retroactive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not defending the vote, Chris, but where in the minutes does it indicate the increase was retroactive?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam D. Probolsky</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2009/11/10/chris-norby-opportunist-or-revolutionary/comment-page-1/#comment-44612</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam D. Probolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was a good man. Very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was a good man. Very sad.</p>
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