A Tale of Four Democrats Episode 1: Primary Sins

lorri-gallowayIt is interesting to see Lorri Galloway supporters lob accusations at Tom Daly and others over whether or not they are good Democrats. Galloway’s supporters seem to be filled with a self-righteous zeal to point out who are good and bad Democrats throughout Orange County. Reading their comments and listening to Lorri herself, one would think she is the best damn Democrat ever to set foot behind the Orange Curtain. Never mind the fact that she committed the greatest sin of any OC Democrat back in 2006. I originally was going to let by gones be by gones and focus on 2010, but witnessing the self-righteous dribbel on who or what constitutes a good Democrat, I just need to speak out on this and bring up Lorri’s past sins.

What bothers me more is some of the people giving Lorri a free pass for her sin of 2006 were the very same people who pilloried three other Democrats, John Hanna, Jerry Patterson and Katrina Foley for also endorsing a Republican in a partisan race. The only difference being that the three endorsed in a race where the Democrat had no shot in heaven or hell of winning while Lorri endorsed a Republican in a race where us Democrats were trying to keep the seat in Democratic hands. This in no way excuses the other three for not supporting the Democrat, I would have preferred for them to have stayed in our corner, despite the odds, but how come they do not get a free pass like Lorri Galloway? Lets explore the sins of each and decide who owes the Democratic Party more penance:

Katrina Foley

KatrinaI will start with Katrina Foley, because she is the least guilty of the endorsing sins. In 2006 she endorsed Republican Dianne Harman in the primary, mainly on the fact that Dianne was a pro-choice Republican going against Jim Silva and Mike McGill. Yes there was a Democrat running, although at this point was not running against the Reps. Nevertheless, there was a group of angry Democrats ready to pillory her over this chain of events, despite the fact that she had been the vocal voice against Allan Mansoor’s recent efforts to blame Mexicans for every problem in Costa Mesa. There were calls by some Dems to shout her down or approach her and “tell her off” at a the first ever William Jefferson Clinton Awards and I was even approached to write anti-Katrina Foley posts, which I did not do.

In the end Harman lost, and Silva went on to be the Democrat by 30 points. The race was not even on the radar for the Assembly Dems. Yet one would have thought Katrina Foley’s endorsement of Harman would have ruined any chance for Dems to take the 67th AD. Hey folks, we never had a chance. Sure it would have been nice for her to not endorse Harman, but she did not deserve the treatment she got. Of course it pales in comparison to the treatment of the next two:

Jerry Patterson & Planned Parenthood

I include Planned Parenthood in this because they also took some swipes from people for committing the same “sin” PattersonJerry Patterson did, although they are a non-partisan organization, some of Galloway’s cheerleaders made wild claims that Planned Parenthood was a branch of the Democratic party. News flash folks, THEY AREN’T. So onto the “sin.” In 2005 there was a special election to fill the vacancy in the 48th Congressional District. The two leading Republican candidates were the birther’s number one champion, John Campbell and Marilyn Brewer, who had a pro-choice voting record in the State Assembly and was seen as the more moderate of the two.

Most pundits had conceded that this was safe for a Republican(although there is signs that is now changing) and no Democrats of any notoriety had decided to run. The top Democrat was Steve Young, who had no chance of winning. As a result, Jerry Patterson endorsed Brewer, appeared on mailers to Dem voters in the district essentially touting that she was the lesser of the two evil Republicans. In the end Campbell won big and made it into the general, as did Steve Young. In the general all the progressives, including Patterson and Planned Parenthood backed Young over Campbell despite the odds, but was this good enough for some of the Democratic Party Activist Police, NO.

An entire DPOC Central Committee meeting was dedicated to a resolution to decide what to do about Jerry Patterson’s actions. There were calls to censure him, there were calls to ask him to leave the party, there were even calls to strengthen the resolution to demand all elected Dems endorse ONLY Dems, even in non-partisan races. Some party stalwarts expressed their concern against such a witchhunt. In the end, the resolution got tabled as some of the hardest core of the hardest core would not vote for anything less than a witchhunt. During that meeting, as a Planned Parenthood employee, I even got yelled at, even by some who are now Galloway cheerleaders. One even said they now planned to vote Yes on Prop 73, the first Parental Notification Initiative to fail to spite PPOSBC’s endorsement of Marilyn Brewer.

This would all pale in comparison to the next Democrat and the Central Committee mob that came after him in 2006. In episode 2 we will explore the Hunting of John Hanna!

Hanna

  23 comments for “A Tale of Four Democrats Episode 1: Primary Sins

  1. Daniel Lamb
    September 21, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Never endorse a member of different party if Claudio deems that race to be competitive.

    Interesting rule…

    So much for principles, eh?

    Why they let you post when you continue to bring nothing new to the table is beyond me…

    I hope the good people over at the LiberalOC will urge this blogger to stick to the issues IMPORTANT to the people of Orange County.

  2. Claudio Gallegos
    September 21, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Yes, how dare anyone ever ever criticize Princess Galloway. I guess she is the long lost Princess in the Disney Princess collection. I thought I recognized the red dress inside the Princess store when I was at Disneyland last weekend. I didn’t realize the significance. LOL!

    Daniel, if you stopped fawning all over Lorri and actually pay attention to the Orange County political landscape, you will see there is really only ONE State Senate seat where the Democrat is comptetitive, and that is the 34th SD. I didn;t make the determination, I just stated the facts. Come down from the Hills or from Boalt and we would be happy to educate you on Orange County politics.

    IN the meantime, cool it with the personal attacks. There is another blog where that is welcome. Lets try discussing the issues here.

  3. Daniel Lamb
    September 21, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    You calculations as a political operative, and the resentment that results from that predisposition, are irrelevant to the question of who would serve the fourth district best.

    Lorri endorsed the candidate she trusted most. Not letting politics influence her decision is noble.

    The better question, and I doubt you will answer, is would Tom Daly endorse someone he does not trust just because it is good politics?

  4. Claudio Gallegos
    September 21, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Keep up with the straw man arguments Daniel. I have stated more than once why I support Tom Daly and have stated for the record why I believe he would better represent the 4th. I am not going to be a broken record and repeat it. If you don’t like my reasonse, tough.

    It is her camp, which includes you, who is not being forthcoming. Many in her camp, who I am sure you cavort with, were among the loudest voices calling for Katrina Foley, Jerry Patterson and John Hanna to be ripped for endorsing a Republican in a PARTISAN RACE, even though the first two endorsed a Republican in the PRIMARY which that REPUBLICAN ultimately LOST. YET these same people seem to accept Lorri’s explanation that she endorsed the candidate she “trusted most.”(Her story changes again)

    SO my question to them and to you is how is their actions any different than Lorri’s? Why do they get ripped on for their decision but she is expected to get a free pass? It is her camp that came and acted all high and mighty judging us Dems on what makes a good Democrat. If your camp is going to play that card, I am going to play this card. SO I await your answers to my questions.

  5. Daniel Lamb
    September 21, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Since you did not answer my question I will assume the obvious…
    Tom Daly would endorse a candidate he does not trust because it is good politics.
    This goes to the heart of the debate. Tom Daly is a career politician, as his web site touts, he cares more about political maneuvers and moving up the ladder than the people he is suppose to serve.
    Lorri is not a typical politician as she is not afraid to make waves. This is what Orange County needs. Not the same old thing(Daly)… we need change(Galloway)

    As to YOUR question, which I WILL answer because I am not afraid of debate. I think endorsements are personal affairs and should be judged on a case-by-case basis. It is a very simple concept 99% of the country could agree upon.

  6. Publius
    September 21, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    When did I miss the decision that Daniel is the one who decide which issues are “IMPORTANT to the people of Orange County”?
    As for his later OVERstatement that endorsements are personal matters that “99% of the country could agree upon,” I find his number quite high.
    But I do think that most of the country CAN agree that a candidate who moves to a more competitive district to more easily further her own political career is not “noble” in any way.
    So once more, I will ask the obvious question – If Lorri is such a terrific candidate, why doesn’t she run for higher office from the place where she has resided for many years?
    We in the Fourth don’t want her here!

  7. Kevin
    September 21, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Daniel: obviously you’re a true-blue Galloway fan, but as someone who’s not part of her inner circle, she definitely seems to throw off more heat than light. She’ll grandstand on her pet issues to beat the band, and she doesn’t seem shy about showing up for photo ops, but what does she actually *DO*?

    In the previous Galloway thread (“Lorri Galloway Not The Best For Central OC”), I asked for Galloway supporters to illuminate us on real, concrete actions that she’s taken that have increased Anaheim’s affordable housing supply — for while she talks up the issue, many of her public actions seem counterproductive and reinforce the status quo. Perhaps you can read my comment there and answer my questions?

  8. Daniel Lamb
    September 21, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    The Anaheim Family Justice Center and the Anaheim Affordable Housing Strategic Plan were done while she was the only Democrat on the Council.

    Listen, you guys are never going to listen to me, your minds are clearly made up. I hope people here the heat that is going down here and take some interest to find out for themselves what Lorri is all about.

    They might want to start by asking a Disney/Hotel employee in the fourth district. I believe their struggle (amongst those similar) is the biggest issue facing that region. That is why I am a supporter…

  9. September 21, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Claudio — sorry, but Lou is barely a Democrat and has voted with Republicans a number of times. If your standard of what constitutes a good Democrat means a pristine record of supporters any Democrat, then a lot of us should be kicked out of the party.

    Democrats, unlike Republicans, don’t march in lockstep. We sometimes can’t even take our own side in an argument.

    What Lorri did, and I totally respect her for it, was follow her convictions. That showed tremendous chracter and integrity.

    Back to Lou — when the good senator renounces his endorsement of Art Pedroza for Santa Ana city council, I’m happy to get behind him all the way. But what a lapse of judgement on Lou’s part to endorse someone clearly so unsuited for office (that would be you Art), he barely beat a convicted ketchup thief. And Art should save the argument about the votes who voted for the sunglassed one — because people in his ward voted for Bustamante even after the waterbra comment came to light. As bad as that was, they thought “Council member Pedroza” would be worse.

  10. Kevin
    September 21, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    So Galloway’s biggest leadership achievement on her signature issue in her five years on the Council was to be one of three votes on the Affordable Housing Strategic Plan? I was hoping for something a little more, um, dynamic.

    (And the Family Justice Center, while admirable, has nothing at all to do with affordable housing.)

    But I guess that affordable housing is old news, now that you’ve declared the *new* biggest issue facing the Fourth District to be the Disney hotel workers’ struggle. Funny how the Daniel-approved “biggest issue” always seems to be one where Lorri has been preening for the spotlight …

  11. September 21, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Kevin — her day to day contributions to helping abused kids doens’t count. Her continued support of Labor and unions daily, doens’t count?

    Its kind of hard to lead on a city council when you’re in the minority, but Lorri does a great job and as 4th district supe, she’d still be in the minority but at least the middle class voters mots squeezed by Republican Conservative policies will have a voice on the board.

  12. Daniel Lamb
    September 22, 2009 at 7:59 am

    Dynamic is what you want? She recently saved a bus load of school children from terrorists… in the 4th district.

    Oh and as for Tom Daly, his only accomplishment in the last decade has been to open an clerk-recorder office in Fullerton. Wasting tax-payer money in a recession to give him an edge in the supervisor race. Classic.

  13. Claudio Gallegos
    September 22, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Dan,

    This is not about Art Pedroza, if that is the best the Lorri camp can come up with to justify their hypocrisy, then that is pretty pathetic.

    According to the Word According to the Book of Daniel Lamb, when Lorri Galloway endorses anti-labor Republicans in partisan races, it is honorable and she did it for good reasons, but when any other Democrat, especially Tom Daly endorses Republicans in NON-PARTISAN races, they are being selfish. Wow! Can we now just declare her St. Lorri.

  14. Daniel Lamb
    September 22, 2009 at 8:48 am

    You provide no facts, cites, nor any evidence at all with respect to Lorri’s positions…

    Galloway did not want Lou Correa in office. That was a long time ago, don’t you think you are taking this to a pathological level…

  15. Dan Chmielewski
    September 22, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Claudio — It’s not about Art Pedroza, it’s about judgement. And Lou demonstrated bad judgement in his endorsement which was a year ago; Galloway’s endorsements were from several elections ago and she and Lou have since patched things up.

    I still don’t see any list of accomplishments from Mr.Daly that might warrant him being an effective member of the BOS; frankly, I believe the current office he holds pays better and he might not be able to afford the paycut.

  16. Beacon
    September 23, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    I’ve been sitting on the sidelines for about a week now and all I have to say is that you guys are nuts!!! I won’t get sucked into this argument about who is a good dem and who should be burned at the stake again. I’m also not going to try to be the head cheerleader, I don’t have to be. I will however state facts and not suposition. “The Family Justice Center”, the first of it’s kind in the nation. Other city’s are taking note and mirroring the center. Lorri spearheaded this effort. Where is the Family Justice Center? Why, it’s in the Fourth District. Lorri is now public enemy #1 on the streets of Disney! Why, because she supported affordable housing for Disney employees who can’t afford to live in the city because of the wages that Disney pays. Now if any of you don’t think that these efforts aren’t noble I will gladly slap you upside the head!

    Lorri doesn’t need cheerleaders, never has. Her supporters are only responding to uneducated, unresearched and generally unintelligent accusations posted in these blogs. Who cares about what happened 2 election cycles ago? Who cares? Besides those who can’t get past their own egos and are too ignorant to be elected themselves. So, they blog and think that they sound intelligent by presenting unsubstantiated arguments in a place where intelligence is obviously not a requirement. Then there are those who can only attack the way she dresses because they are so dumb that they can’t think of anything else to say. So, rather than stick to the issues they bring up her clothing. Now that’s a darn good reason not to elect her. Hey, I think it’s a darn good reason for these people to stay away from the polls! OOOHH! I’m going to vote for this candidate because it looks like she buys her clothing at Santa Ana Tent and Awning, she must be good!

    For the comedy factor alone, this blog is worth reading!

  17. Beacon
    September 23, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Daniel, You should stop your reparte with Claudio as he obviously feels that his opinion is the only one worth listening too. You’re not going to win him over with fact because he doesn’t understand the term. Let him go about his business of being a democratic cancer.

  18. September 23, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    “Lorri doesn’t need cheerleaders, never has. Her supporters are only responding to uneducated, unresearched and generally unintelligent accusations posted in these blogs. Who cares about what happened 2 election cycles ago? Who cares? Besides those who can’t get past their own egos and are too ignorant to be elected themselves. So, they blog and think that they sound intelligent by presenting unsubstantiated arguments in a place where intelligence is obviously not a requirement.”

    “You’re not going to win him over with fact because he doesn’t understand the term. Let him go about his business of being a democratic cancer.”

    Beacon, if you wish to claim that Claudio is a democratic cancer, you may want to back that up with some fact that supports it. Just because someone does not support your favored candidate, does not mean that they are a cancer on he party.

    Beacon and Daniel; we appreciate differing points of view on this blog. If you believe that something stated is unsubstantiated, make that point. If someone says something that is in your opinion inaccurate, show us why you believe that to be so.

    No candidate in this race is “entitled” to the 4th District Supervisor seat. They will need to justify to the voters in the district why they should represent them. This is not a game of powder puff football. This is the real deal. There are passionate supporters of each candidate in the race. We have bloggers who support Lorri, bloggers who support Tom, and bloggers who support Rose. All of them will be writing about this race and a passionate debate over the merits and faults of each candidate should be expected.

    Lorri is a tough candidate, and I am confident that she will run a vigorous campaign. I believe the same can be said of the other democrats in the race as well. There is no need to hyper-ventilate this early in the race. Heck, we haven’t even reached the filing period yet.

  19. Daniel Lamb
    September 23, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Chris,

    What are you saying about my posts? Instead of criticizing me, maybe you should take a look at what your fellow blogger wrote. He it attacking a fellow Democrat simply for the sake of attacking. He has been building this elaborate argument regarding “Lorri’s hypocritical supporters” but he does not state who they are…

    What are her supporters to do? How should I respond? It is unproductive and this blog is responsible for it because you guys are providing the forum. People who care about this race have a right to get a little angry.

    You are right, this race is a VERY VERY big deal. There is not ONE Dem on the OC Board of Supervisors. Do you know what that means to the county’s workers? Are you aware of the lay-offs earlier this year? Occasionally, I will make light in my post in the interest of being amiable, but do not get me wrong I am here for a reason.

    I am anxious to debate issues. Any real issue.

    It is the job of the blog administration to make sure issues get presented. If I am out of line please educate me.

  20. Publius
    September 23, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    I care deeply about this race. And I do get angry when one of Lorri’s supporters refers to Claudio as a Democratic cancer. He deserves an apology from “beacon.”
    I find it interesting that both longtime residents of the 4th (Mr. Perez and myself) have unanswered questions about Lorri. And her fan club seems to hail from outside of the district, much like Galloway herself.
    Longtime readers of this blog might remember that I objected strongly to carpetbagging when Umberg ran for State Senate. And raised the residency issue when Ed Chau took advantage of a loophole in the requirements for federal candidates to run for Congress from outside of the district.
    So it’s not really a personal issue I have with Lorri. I simply don’t think she has the credentials to earn my vote. Her pending change of address DIS-qualifies her in the minds of many voters.
    If anything, I think the residency requirements should be longer in CA. How about requiring candidates live in a district for 6 months before beginning the process? Or a year? I think 4th district voters, indeed, Orange County voters as a whole, would support such an idea.
    BTW Daniel, it’s not the job of any blog administrator to make sure YOUR issues are presented here.

  21. September 24, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Beacon,
    Perhaps your reading comprehension skills are deteriorating, no one has remarked on Lorri’s style of dress, or any other malicious rumor that people spread about her, much UNLIKE yourself, who chooses to make petty remarks and personal insults. Some people like to keep track of the things others do and say, and those people are the ones who care. You might say that most constituents DONT care about stuff that happens an election cycle or two again, but even those people are just a mailer away from being reminded that Lorri endorsed a evil Republican women instead of a popular Hispanic man. Combine that with her carpetbagging and we got ourselves an interesting race! Thank you for the complement about my inability to get elected, I was 20 at the time, but even then I was able to formulate my opinions significantly better than you appear to be able to now. Your willingness to insult me and others reflects badly on your candidate.

    And for the record, the Anaheim Justice Center is NOT the first of it’s kind. It was modeled after others that existed before it, so Lorri does not get credit for creating the concept. She might have spearheaded the issue but she was one of many votes that actually created it.

    Daniel,
    The Clerk-Recorders office in Fullerton is actually VERY convenient. I’ve been to it, and I was grateful that I didn’t have to drive to Downtown Santa Ana during business hours. Also, you should know that Tom Daly is not allowed to conduct campaign business on government property, or use government staff for that matter, so I’m not sure what your getting at when you say he did that to give himself an “edge”.

  22. Daniel Lamb
    September 24, 2009 at 9:25 am

    Clearly opening up an office in Fullerton will help him. Your comment stating its convenience proves that fact and I think easier acsess to information is a good thing for us politicos.
    The issue I have goes back to a matter of priorities. This year the county laid off many workers putting unimaginable stress on famalies within the county.
    How many jobs could have been kept if this office was not open? Is the convenience of not driving to Santa Ana worth having to lay off these people?
    I understand there is more that goes into it, but a budget is a budget…
    But, at least we are now discussing an issue.

  23. Claudio Gallegos
    September 24, 2009 at 10:32 am

    That’s the spirit Daniel. You are discussing a relevant issue in the 4th. Even though I am a Daly supporter, you bring up a good question for discussion. Tell you what, I am going to put up Part 3 of my series, which goes into 2006 and does hit Lorri hard. I will be honest, you are going to hate the post. But tomorrow I will put up a thread for open discussion on the issues, particularly the Clerk field office. Like her residency, this is a real issue. Disney labor disagreement is a real issue. The county funding of health organizations is a real issue. Lets talk about them.

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