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	<title>Comments on: Does Prop 13 need Reform?</title>
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	<description>Challenging Orange County&#039;s right-wing noise machine</description>
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		<title>By: cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the state collects way more in property taxes anyway.  And any shortfall, if there ever was any, was made up in higher sales, exise, and income taxes.

If the property tax was doubled, whould the other taxes be repealed?  Or would the taxpayers just pay more for less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the state collects way more in property taxes anyway.  And any shortfall, if there ever was any, was made up in higher sales, exise, and income taxes.</p>
<p>If the property tax was doubled, whould the other taxes be repealed?  Or would the taxpayers just pay more for less?</p>
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		<title>By: d'Anconia</title>
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		<dc:creator>d'Anconia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan pretty sure you&#039;re all alone on this one.  Few mindless souls left in California right now who think that taking MORE taxes out of our wallets is the way to go. 

Thankfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan pretty sure you&#8217;re all alone on this one.  Few mindless souls left in California right now who think that taking MORE taxes out of our wallets is the way to go. </p>
<p>Thankfully.</p>
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		<title>By: duplojohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>duplojohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
I&#039;m not sure where you grew up. But I remember the ad&#039;s for/against PROP 13 clearly.

I remember my parents divided over it. I also recall the big aurguement against it was there would be NO MONEY left for public safety. None for healthcare for the poor, none for the mental health (nevermind Reagan had abandoned that group.....).

My point is is that maybe there is room to revisit this. I am a San Francisco Demecrat. But, even I get a little pissed when the car tax goes up and they don&#039;t fix the roads.

I&#039;ll be happy to pay IF IN FACT I GET WHAT I PAY FOR. 

Today, it seems everyone else gets what I pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
I&#8217;m not sure where you grew up. But I remember the ad&#8217;s for/against PROP 13 clearly.</p>
<p>I remember my parents divided over it. I also recall the big aurguement against it was there would be NO MONEY left for public safety. None for healthcare for the poor, none for the mental health (nevermind Reagan had abandoned that group&#8230;..).</p>
<p>My point is is that maybe there is room to revisit this. I am a San Francisco Demecrat. But, even I get a little pissed when the car tax goes up and they don&#8217;t fix the roads.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be happy to pay IF IN FACT I GET WHAT I PAY FOR. </p>
<p>Today, it seems everyone else gets what I pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: WL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milton Friedman said you could not have open borders in a welfare state. The reason behind his comment is that the welfare state would go bankrupt as border jumpers swarmed in to get the freebies, such as free educations, welfare benefits, Obamacare if that passes, and $40k per year per illegal prison inmate.  No wonder California is bankrupt!  If Friedman is right, California has two options - cut off freebies / welfare for illegals or tax native Californians out of their homes by getting rid of Prop 13.

Looks like you go for the solution of taxing Californians to pay for the freebies for illegals. This California fiscal disaster could have been avoided if Prop 187 had been defended by Gray Davis when he was Governor, rather than cutting a backroom deal - good riddance to bad rubbish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milton Friedman said you could not have open borders in a welfare state. The reason behind his comment is that the welfare state would go bankrupt as border jumpers swarmed in to get the freebies, such as free educations, welfare benefits, Obamacare if that passes, and $40k per year per illegal prison inmate.  No wonder California is bankrupt!  If Friedman is right, California has two options &#8211; cut off freebies / welfare for illegals or tax native Californians out of their homes by getting rid of Prop 13.</p>
<p>Looks like you go for the solution of taxing Californians to pay for the freebies for illegals. This California fiscal disaster could have been avoided if Prop 187 had been defended by Gray Davis when he was Governor, rather than cutting a backroom deal &#8211; good riddance to bad rubbish!</p>
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