Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren was a guest on the Larry King Show on CNN last night and said he’s not the anti-gay marriage advocate so many people claim he is.Â See the You Tube video of last night’s show above.
Here’s a transcript of his comments:
Warren: “You know Larry, there was a story within a story that never got told in the first place. I am not an anti-gay or anti-marriage activist. Never have been, never will be. The whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement. Never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going–the week before the vote, somebody in my church said, “Pastor Rick, what do you think about this?” And I sent a note to my own members that said. I actually believe that marriage is really, should be defined. If that definition should be saved between a man and a woman and then all of a suddenly out of it they made me, you know something that I really wasn’t. And there were actually a number of things put out.
I wrote to all my gay friends, the leaders that I knew and actually apologized to them. That never got out. There were some things said, everybody should have 10% grace when they say public statements and when I was asked a question that made it sound like I equated gay marriage with pedophilia or incest which I absolutely do not believe. And I actually announced that. All of the criticism came from people that didn’t know me. Not a single criticism came from any gay leader that knows me and knows that for years we’ve been working together on Aids issues.”
The problem here is that this charge seems to fly in the face of a BeliefNet interview Pastor Warren did last fall at the height of the Prop 8 battle.
Here’s what Warren said on the interview then after nodding his head to an interviewer’s question on if he supported Prop 8.
“I’m not opposed to that as I am opposed to a redefinition of a 5000-year definition of marriage. I’m opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage. I’m opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I’m opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.
Q: Do you think those are equivalent to gays getting married?
Warren: Oh, I do. For 5000 years marriage has been defined by every single culture and every single religion….
And the reason I supported Prop. 8 was because of a free speech issue. Because, if it had, first the court overrode the will of the people, but second is there were all kinds of threats if you, if that did not pass then any pastor could be considered doing hate speech if he shared his views that he didn’t think homosexuality was the most natural way for a relationship and that would be hate speech. …I just don’t believe in the redefinition of marriage.
I attend Warren’s Saddleback services in Irvine and I’m currently reading his book, “A Purpose Driven Life.”Â It seems to me that Pastory Warren is either having a dicfficult time being clearly understood or has forgotten what he said previously on the issue of Gay Marriage.Â I clearly remember him asking both Barack Obama and John McCain to define marriage at last August’s Saddleback Forum and being happy with the response he got.Â
So I think the good Pastor needs to Google himself on this issue and correct the record if it needs correcting.Â But clearly, you can’t go on Larry King and say one thing after its well-documented you’ve been on other programs and said completely the oppossite.