Comments on: Outside the Gates of the Temple http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/11/17/protests-mormon-temple-newport-beach/ Challenging Orange County's right-wing noise machine Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:25:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: yawn http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/11/17/protests-mormon-temple-newport-beach/comment-page-1/#comment-36009 yawn Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:04:31 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/?p=4689#comment-36009 "I WENT TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!" Wrong! “I WENT TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!”

Wrong!

]]> By: El Dav http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/11/17/protests-mormon-temple-newport-beach/comment-page-1/#comment-35992 El Dav Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:21:48 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/?p=4689#comment-35992 This is purely an equality and civil rights issue - how blind can you be? The gay community went to bed with equal civil rights and woke up without them! Here is the rationality: our state constitution does not discriminate on the face of sexual orientation the right to marriage/the pursuit of happiness. This was decided upon by a majority Republican state Supreme Court, because there was no other way to read the Constitution's intent. This was not an activist decision but a literal reading of the Constitution. When people try to amend our beloved Constitution to legislate discrimination, we have a tyranny of the majority. This is the same majority that would have kept women as property, that would die to maintain slavery, that would keep women and minorities from voting, and would prevent inter-racial marriage (all in the name of the Holy Bible!) Our gay citizens have every right to the privileges of their straight neighbors - we would never think of denying them the right to vote, the right to free speech, the right to bear arms. Why is this so difficult to understand? On which side of the fire hydrant do you want to stand? This is purely an equality and civil rights issue – how blind can you be? The gay community went to bed with equal civil rights and woke up without them! Here is the rationality: our state constitution does not discriminate on the face of sexual orientation the right to marriage/the pursuit of happiness. This was decided upon by a majority Republican state Supreme Court, because there was no other way to read the Constitution’s intent. This was not an activist decision but a literal reading of the Constitution. When people try to amend our beloved Constitution to legislate discrimination, we have a tyranny of the majority. This is the same majority that would have kept women as property, that would die to maintain slavery, that would keep women and minorities from voting, and would prevent inter-racial marriage (all in the name of the Holy Bible!) Our gay citizens have every right to the privileges of their straight neighbors – we would never think of denying them the right to vote, the right to free speech, the right to bear arms. Why is this so difficult to understand? On which side of the fire hydrant do you want to stand?

]]> By: Andrew Davey http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/11/17/protests-mormon-temple-newport-beach/comment-page-1/#comment-35984 Andrew Davey Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:04:05 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/?p=4689#comment-35984 Chino Blanco- Good points. Rob- Was that snark? Serious question. Chino Blanco-

Good points.

Rob-

Was that snark? Serious question.

]]> By: Rob http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/11/17/protests-mormon-temple-newport-beach/comment-page-1/#comment-35979 Rob Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:33:45 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/?p=4689#comment-35979 The notion that the folks against Prop 8 merely seek equality and civil rights is a red herring! They skew their true M.O. Such disingenuous ranting discredits any notion of rationality! The notion that the folks against Prop 8 merely seek equality and civil rights is a red herring!

They skew their true M.O.

Such disingenuous ranting discredits any notion of rationality!

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/11/17/protests-mormon-temple-newport-beach/comment-page-1/#comment-35970 Chino Blanco Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:53:18 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/?p=4689#comment-35970 Joseph Smith: "With regard to elections, some say all the Latter-day Saints vote together, and vote as I say. But I never tell any man how to vote or whom to vote for. But I will show you how we have been situated by bringing a comparison. Should there be a Methodist society here and two candidates running for office, one says, 'If you will vote for me and put me in governor, I will exterminate the Methodists, take away their charters,' etc. The other candidate says, 'If I am governor, I will give all an equal privilege.' Which would the Methodists vote for? Of course they would vote en masse for the candidate that would give them their rights." How sad is it that contemporary Mormons have now utterly failed to live up to their civic duty in the eyes of their original prophet? Joseph Smith:

“With regard to elections, some say all the Latter-day Saints vote together, and vote as I say. But I never tell any man how to vote or whom to vote for. But I will show you how we have been situated by bringing a comparison. Should there be a Methodist society here and two candidates running for office, one says, ‘If you will vote for me and put me in governor, I will exterminate the Methodists, take away their charters,’ etc. The other candidate says, ‘If I am governor, I will give all an equal privilege.’ Which would the Methodists vote for? Of course they would vote en masse for the candidate that would give them their rights.”

How sad is it that contemporary Mormons have now utterly failed to live up to their civic duty in the eyes of their original prophet?

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