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	<title>Comments on: There&#8217;s our job and there&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s job</title>
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		<title>By: Vern Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28617</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, maybe there&#039;s d&#039;Anconia&#039;s answer.  Only Dan C, of all &quot;leftists&quot; and 
&quot;Democrats&quot;, bothers with that line of attack.  Those guys are still full of it.  Sarah&#039;s religious fanaticism, her ignorance, her lies and abuse of power, her complete lack of qualifications to be President, are what most of us are focused on.  And d&#039;Anconia is a wanker.  I&#039;m sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe there&#8217;s d&#8217;Anconia&#8217;s answer.  Only Dan C, of all &#8220;leftists&#8221; and<br />
&#8220;Democrats&#8221;, bothers with that line of attack.  Those guys are still full of it.  Sarah&#8217;s religious fanaticism, her ignorance, her lies and abuse of power, her complete lack of qualifications to be President, are what most of us are focused on.  And d&#8217;Anconia is a wanker.  I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28616</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between Bristol&#039;s pregnancy/underage drinking, Track&#039;s alleged arrest for vandalism/vodka theft, and &quot;do we have a reason why Bristol was out of high school for 5 months or wht Track spent most of his senior year in Michigan? I think the Palin&#039;s are lousy parents.   My opinion.  You can disagree.  Parents that let their kids sleep over at Michael Jackson&#039;s house are lousy parents too.  Piper Palin, adorable. Levi Johnson, well, the shotgun is painted white.  I thought only Islamic extremists did arranged marriages these days - nice to know Palin will make her daughter enter into a loveless marriage for political convenience (and yes, I said all this to rile up you right wingers out there!)

And yes, Obama has young children who have a great deal of love, support and care from Michelle Obama, her parents and Obama&#039;s sister.  I&#039;ll say it again.  Palin&#039;s. Lousy. Parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between Bristol&#8217;s pregnancy/underage drinking, Track&#8217;s alleged arrest for vandalism/vodka theft, and &#8220;do we have a reason why Bristol was out of high school for 5 months or wht Track spent most of his senior year in Michigan? I think the Palin&#8217;s are lousy parents.   My opinion.  You can disagree.  Parents that let their kids sleep over at Michael Jackson&#8217;s house are lousy parents too.  Piper Palin, adorable. Levi Johnson, well, the shotgun is painted white.  I thought only Islamic extremists did arranged marriages these days &#8211; nice to know Palin will make her daughter enter into a loveless marriage for political convenience (and yes, I said all this to rile up you right wingers out there!)</p>
<p>And yes, Obama has young children who have a great deal of love, support and care from Michelle Obama, her parents and Obama&#8217;s sister.  I&#8217;ll say it again.  Palin&#8217;s. Lousy. Parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Vern Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28589</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you saw what happened.  Dank promised to name a leftist or Democrat that criticized Palin etc.  He couldn&#039;t come up with ONE.  I think that&#039;s kind of remarkable. 

 Now he and Matt are sitting on their hands, knowing that if enough comments happen on other threads, this will just sort of fade away.  Not on my watch. 

We did not criticize Caribou Barbie for Bristol&#039;s pregnancy.  Not you, not I, not Obama, not Carville, not Noam Chomsky, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you saw what happened.  Dank promised to name a leftist or Democrat that criticized Palin etc.  He couldn&#8217;t come up with ONE.  I think that&#8217;s kind of remarkable. </p>
<p> Now he and Matt are sitting on their hands, knowing that if enough comments happen on other threads, this will just sort of fade away.  Not on my watch. </p>
<p>We did not criticize Caribou Barbie for Bristol&#8217;s pregnancy.  Not you, not I, not Obama, not Carville, not Noam Chomsky, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28581</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Borderline blogwhoring Vern.  Borderline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borderline blogwhoring Vern.  Borderline.</p>
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		<title>By: Vern Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28577</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just sayin&#039;...  Matt and Dank would like that last comment to slip into blog-history oblivion.  Guys?  No snappy comebacks? Should I move this whole thing over to my place, where it won&#039;t sink into the quicksand so fast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just sayin&#8217;&#8230;  Matt and Dank would like that last comment to slip into blog-history oblivion.  Guys?  No snappy comebacks? Should I move this whole thing over to my place, where it won&#8217;t sink into the quicksand so fast?</p>
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		<title>By: Vern Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28480</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  I think it&#039;s safe and fair to say now that NOBODY on the Left or in the Democratic Party criticized Palin for her daughter&#039;s pregnancy.  I can&#039;t think of anyone who did, and d&#039;Anconia can&#039;t name anyone who did.  And remember, the talking point was not &quot;One or two leftists did that&quot;  but &quot;the Left and the Democrats did it.&quot;  Maybe it&#039;s time to move on to the question of:  What do FACTS, what does TRUTH mean, to folks like Jubal and d&#039;Anconia?

What does Jubal believe?  I&#039;m pretty sure he is very serious about his Catholic faith (or his interpretation of what it means to be Catholic) and he convinced himself years ago that the Republican Party is God&#039;s instrument on earth.  These are his overriding imperatives.  From there, facts are either convenient or inconvenient, in the service of advancing the GOP and &quot;Christianity.&quot;

d&#039;Anconia... well, all I know is he believes what he hears all his friends say.  EVERYBODY knows the left and the dems were trashing Palin for her daughter&#039;s pregnancy.  I mean, EVERYBODY was saying that, it has to be true!  Just because I can&#039;t find any examples - that doesn&#039;t mean anything.  The only people who will argue with such a self-evident truth are crazy evil leftists like Vern anyway.  Did I do well, Jubal?  Do I get a cookie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I think it&#8217;s safe and fair to say now that NOBODY on the Left or in the Democratic Party criticized Palin for her daughter&#8217;s pregnancy.  I can&#8217;t think of anyone who did, and d&#8217;Anconia can&#8217;t name anyone who did.  And remember, the talking point was not &#8220;One or two leftists did that&#8221;  but &#8220;the Left and the Democrats did it.&#8221;  Maybe it&#8217;s time to move on to the question of:  What do FACTS, what does TRUTH mean, to folks like Jubal and d&#8217;Anconia?</p>
<p>What does Jubal believe?  I&#8217;m pretty sure he is very serious about his Catholic faith (or his interpretation of what it means to be Catholic) and he convinced himself years ago that the Republican Party is God&#8217;s instrument on earth.  These are his overriding imperatives.  From there, facts are either convenient or inconvenient, in the service of advancing the GOP and &#8220;Christianity.&#8221;</p>
<p>d&#8217;Anconia&#8230; well, all I know is he believes what he hears all his friends say.  EVERYBODY knows the left and the dems were trashing Palin for her daughter&#8217;s pregnancy.  I mean, EVERYBODY was saying that, it has to be true!  Just because I can&#8217;t find any examples &#8211; that doesn&#8217;t mean anything.  The only people who will argue with such a self-evident truth are crazy evil leftists like Vern anyway.  Did I do well, Jubal?  Do I get a cookie?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28340</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Republicans claiming she sold the plane n eBay; and fact checking her speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OlZSCK7-M&amp;feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc7BF_Fd7I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Republicans claiming she sold the plane n eBay; and fact checking her speech</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OlZSCK7-M&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OlZSCK7-M&amp;feature=related</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc7BF_Fd7I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc7BF_Fd7I</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28338</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She said she put it on EBay; McCain saiud she sold it for a profit.  See it yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm5jQEh7exg

Do we need reading comprehension Matt?  I reference the lies told by the McCain/Palin ticket.

d&#039;Acon; the Washington Post and BusinessWeek both report Obama&#039;s tax plan puts more money in the pockets of average Americans than McCain&#039;s does.  Its not a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She said she put it on EBay; McCain saiud she sold it for a profit.  See it yourself</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm5jQEh7exg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm5jQEh7exg</a></p>
<p>Do we need reading comprehension Matt?  I reference the lies told by the McCain/Palin ticket.</p>
<p>d&#8217;Acon; the Washington Post and BusinessWeek both report Obama&#8217;s tax plan puts more money in the pockets of average Americans than McCain&#8217;s does.  Its not a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/09/13/theres-our-job-and-theres-obamas-job/comment-page-1/#comment-28335</link>
		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:

Palin never said she sold the plane on eBay:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/691/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:</p>
<p>Palin never said she sold the plane on eBay:</p>
<p><a href="http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/691/" rel="nofollow">http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/691/</a></p>
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