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	<title>Comments on: Dina wants Supervisor job; can&#8217;t pay property taxes on time.</title>
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	<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/</link>
	<description>Challenging Orange County&#039;s right-wing noise machine</description>
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		<title>By: Not Dems/Not Reeps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Dems/Not Reeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this fact with us Chris, although it&#039;s not a  really big deal, I think it&#039;s interesting to see since Dina always out there criticizing and bashing Janet for every little thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this fact with us Chris, although it&#8217;s not a  really big deal, I think it&#8217;s interesting to see since Dina always out there criticizing and bashing Janet for every little thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: inquisitve mind</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18336</link>
		<dc:creator>inquisitve mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I&#039;ve never supported Janet before, out of the 3 she&#039;s probably the best choice right now.  2 years after that I hope to see more qualified people run for that position.  But for now, we need to make sure Dina is no going any where after June 3rd, same with Hoa...  These 2 will be a liability to our county.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I&#8217;ve never supported Janet before, out of the 3 she&#8217;s probably the best choice right now.  2 years after that I hope to see more qualified people run for that position.  But for now, we need to make sure Dina is no going any where after June 3rd, same with Hoa&#8230;  These 2 will be a liability to our county.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Prevatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Prevatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 21:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Flowerszzz,

I yield on this point. None of it makes any sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Flowerszzz,</p>
<p>I yield on this point. None of it makes any sense.</p>
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		<title>By: FLowerszzz</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18328</link>
		<dc:creator>FLowerszzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe if they were reported BOTH on A &amp; E they would be subtracted 2x which would really screw up the math.  And if they were not reported on A the cumulative amounts for the donors would be inaccurate.  The refunds to me appear to be reported correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe if they were reported BOTH on A &amp; E they would be subtracted 2x which would really screw up the math.  And if they were not reported on A the cumulative amounts for the donors would be inaccurate.  The refunds to me appear to be reported correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Prevatt</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18326</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Prevatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flowerszzz,

At any rate, the math on this makes one&#039;s head expload. Indeed her contributions and expenditures would be higher because of the replacement checks and refunds. Yes she reported the correction in the contributions in this period. But there is no way to be sure they actually refunded and collected new checks the way it is reported.

Why couldn&#039;t she have just done things correctly in the first place? It isn&#039;t like this is the first time she has run for office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flowerszzz,</p>
<p>At any rate, the math on this makes one&#8217;s head expload. Indeed her contributions and expenditures would be higher because of the replacement checks and refunds. Yes she reported the correction in the contributions in this period. But there is no way to be sure they actually refunded and collected new checks the way it is reported.</p>
<p>Why couldn&#8217;t she have just done things correctly in the first place? It isn&#8217;t like this is the first time she has run for office.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Prevatt</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18325</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Prevatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flowerszzz,

Again, you are correct that DIna did post negative contributions. The problem is that this is not the way to report returned contributions. A returned contribution needs to be clearly indicated in the expenditures as a returned contribuion &quot;RFD.&quot; While reporting a negative contribution shows the same thing, I do not believe it is the correct way of doing things. Also, The amended return changed the reported origninal contribution dates to fall within the legal period. If that is the case, then why would they need to refund?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flowerszzz,</p>
<p>Again, you are correct that DIna did post negative contributions. The problem is that this is not the way to report returned contributions. A returned contribution needs to be clearly indicated in the expenditures as a returned contribuion &#8220;RFD.&#8221; While reporting a negative contribution shows the same thing, I do not believe it is the correct way of doing things. Also, The amended return changed the reported origninal contribution dates to fall within the legal period. If that is the case, then why would they need to refund?</p>
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		<title>By: FLowerszzz</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18323</link>
		<dc:creator>FLowerszzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes it appears she did - isnt that what the negative contributions are all about on her sch A.  I believe the proper way to report contributions refunded is as a negative on sch. A.  And when you refund contributions it takes away from the total of contributions received.  Perhaps she has not gotten replacement checks from all of her refunded donors as of yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes it appears she did &#8211; isnt that what the negative contributions are all about on her sch A.  I believe the proper way to report contributions refunded is as a negative on sch. A.  And when you refund contributions it takes away from the total of contributions received.  Perhaps she has not gotten replacement checks from all of her refunded donors as of yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Prevatt</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18321</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Prevatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flowerszzz,

You are correct on the loan, I read from the wrong line on that one. I have amended the original post on that matter.

However, on the contribution piece, I am correct.

In the previous amended report Dina reported $75,800 in contributions for the period. In this report period she reports $39,039 in contributions. That adds up to $114,849 in contributions. Her report states $114,349 in contributions. There is your $500 difference.

In her amendments from the first reporting period, it appears that all she did was change the reported received dates for the contributions that were received before her declaration date. The problem is that since this problem was not discovered until after she filed the initial return and therefore after the reporting period closed, how could she have returned checks and gotten new ones, after the fact?

Smells fishy to me. The only way to correct the error would be to have refund checks issued from the campaign. (sometime after March 22nd) and then collect new checks for the most recent period. That simply did not happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flowerszzz,</p>
<p>You are correct on the loan, I read from the wrong line on that one. I have amended the original post on that matter.</p>
<p>However, on the contribution piece, I am correct.</p>
<p>In the previous amended report Dina reported $75,800 in contributions for the period. In this report period she reports $39,039 in contributions. That adds up to $114,849 in contributions. Her report states $114,349 in contributions. There is your $500 difference.</p>
<p>In her amendments from the first reporting period, it appears that all she did was change the reported received dates for the contributions that were received before her declaration date. The problem is that since this problem was not discovered until after she filed the initial return and therefore after the reporting period closed, how could she have returned checks and gotten new ones, after the fact?</p>
<p>Smells fishy to me. The only way to correct the error would be to have refund checks issued from the campaign. (sometime after March 22nd) and then collect new checks for the most recent period. That simply did not happen.</p>
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		<title>By: FLowerszzz</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/24/dina-wants-supervisor-job-cant-pay-property-taxes-on-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18319</link>
		<dc:creator>FLowerszzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 17:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris her loan is on both pages correctly so what are you talking about ALSO where is it that you see she is off $500?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris her loan is on both pages correctly so what are you talking about ALSO where is it that you see she is off $500?</p>
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