Comments on: Hoa Clock Ticking http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/ Challenging Orange County's right-wing noise machine Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:38:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sean H. Mill http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17883 Sean H. Mill Thu, 15 May 2008 21:09:20 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17883 Flowerszzz, As I said over at OC Blog, I neversaid a word about Janet's failures to report campaign filings. Flowerszzz,

As I said over at OC Blog, I neversaid a word about Janet’s failures to report campaign filings.

]]> By: FLowerszzz http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17880 FLowerszzz Thu, 15 May 2008 20:12:34 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17880 Sean I said it over at OC Blog, and now here. Why are you not holding them accountable as you did Janet, for failure to report campaign filings correctly and whitholding information? Sean I said it over at OC Blog, and now here. Why are you not holding them accountable as you did Janet, for failure to report campaign filings correctly and whitholding information?

]]> By: Jubal http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17873 Jubal Thu, 15 May 2008 19:16:34 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17873 Good points,, just...asking. But what Sean's doing is trying to shift the topic of conversation away from Hoa's clear violations of TINCUP and failure to remedy them. Good points,, just…asking.

But what Sean’s doing is trying to shift the topic of conversation away from Hoa’s clear violations of TINCUP and failure to remedy them.

]]> By: The Lovable Curmudgeon http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17872 The Lovable Curmudgeon Thu, 15 May 2008 19:15:07 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17872 I just fail to see how a single "disgruntled ex-employee" (or even a group of them) can possibly be held responsible for the campaign's apparent failure to completely report contributions and expenditures. Blaming the messenger here just doesn't pass the smell test with me. I think you're trying to use the theft of a photo (ever heard of emailing a file?) to try to distract readers from this basic point. I have a hunch you refuse to provide a hypothetical scenario because there is NO PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION. I just fail to see how a single “disgruntled ex-employee” (or even a group of them) can possibly be held responsible for the campaign’s apparent failure to completely report contributions and expenditures.
Blaming the messenger here just doesn’t pass the smell test with me.
I think you’re trying to use the theft of a photo (ever heard of emailing a file?) to try to distract readers from this basic point.
I have a hunch you refuse to provide a hypothetical scenario because there is NO PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION.

]]> By: just...asking? http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17870 just...asking? Thu, 15 May 2008 19:10:49 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17870 Sean, Other than your "warnings" of legal action, I haven't seen any verifiable reports of theft from Hoa's campaign office. If I've missed this please point me to that story. There has been a lot of detail posted/reported/filings about Hoa's campaign reporting deficiencies. You should read some of them and decide if Hoa needs to come clean on this. Anyone who has worked a campaign knows that photo's get sent around all the time. Unless you know who took the picture, who stored the picture, where it was stored, and if this was the only copy of the picture ever distributed, it is hard to call use of the photo a "theft". Looks like Hoa's staffers were having fun and freaking out the guy in the center of the photo. Wouldn't expect this photo was taken to be placed in a mailer, and was probably taken as a joke by a staffer. It would be very doubtful if staffers were required to sign non-disclosures, so sometimes these things happen. Sean,

Other than your “warnings” of legal action, I haven’t seen any verifiable reports of theft from Hoa’s campaign office. If I’ve missed this please point me to that story.

There has been a lot of detail posted/reported/filings about Hoa’s campaign reporting deficiencies. You should read some of them and decide if Hoa needs to come clean on this.

Anyone who has worked a campaign knows that photo’s get sent around all the time. Unless you know who took the picture, who stored the picture, where it was stored, and if this was the only copy of the picture ever distributed, it is hard to call use of the photo a “theft”.

Looks like Hoa’s staffers were having fun and freaking out the guy in the center of the photo. Wouldn’t expect this photo was taken to be placed in a mailer, and was probably taken as a joke by a staffer. It would be very doubtful if staffers were required to sign non-disclosures, so sometimes these things happen.

]]> By: Jubal http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17869 Jubal Thu, 15 May 2008 19:09:35 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17869 Isn't that what Nixon said about Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers? Good luck with the threats. I think the last thing your friend Edgardo wants is legal prying into the what goes on in Hoa's campaign office. Isn’t that what Nixon said about Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers?

Good luck with the threats. I think the last thing your friend Edgardo wants is legal prying into the what goes on in Hoa’s campaign office.

]]> By: Sean H. Mill http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17864 Sean H. Mill Thu, 15 May 2008 19:01:57 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17864 Matt, The police call it "being in possession of stolen property". I am quite sure that once legal action begins folks will be singing like canaries. Matt,

The police call it “being in possession of stolen property”. I am quite sure that once legal action begins folks will be singing like canaries.

]]> By: Jubal http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17863 Jubal Thu, 15 May 2008 18:56:53 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17863 <i>Perhaps you’d like to share how you came in possession of them if you dispute that they were stolen from Hoa’s campaign.</i> A blogger calling on another blogger to reveal his source, Sean? Tsk. Perhaps you’d like to share how you came in possession of them if you dispute that they were stolen from Hoa’s campaign.

A blogger calling on another blogger to reveal his source, Sean? Tsk.

]]> By: Sean H. Mill http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/comment-page-2/#comment-17862 Sean H. Mill Thu, 15 May 2008 18:55:37 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/05/13/hoa-clock-ticking/#comment-17862 LC, I am not going to deal in the hypothetical. Yes charges have been made, but I'll wait until all the facts come out and not just rely on blogs, bloggers and disgruntled ex-employees for my information. These folks all have an agenda and are trying to use the issue of these reports to push it. LC,

I am not going to deal in the hypothetical.

Yes charges have been made, but I’ll wait until all the facts come out and not just rely on blogs, bloggers and disgruntled ex-employees for my information. These folks all have an agenda and are trying to use the issue of these reports to push it.

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