Sign Wars

It’s election season. Invariably there will be allegations from the various campaigns that someone is taking down their signs. Usually, with a little investigation the signs that were taken down were on public property and were taken down by public workers.

In the following VIDEO (High Quality, WMV) we see where a 4 by 8 Janet Nguyen for Supervisor once stood, now stands a Hoa Tran for Supervisor sign. The vandals even used the stakes that once held up Janet Nguyen’s sign to post Hoa Tran’s.

Here is the YouTube Link if first one doesn’t work for you.

It’s May, so it must be silly season. Of course, I expect nothing less from the “alleged” gang members working for Reynoso & Hoa.

  16 comments for “Sign Wars

  1. Watcher
    May 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Dina did the same things to Janet’s sings down by Main/MacArthur.

    Although, knowing that Whitacre lives down in that part of town, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find out that he ripped her signs down. That guy is a total loon.

  2. Flowerszzz
    May 3, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    I can say this Chris I think Janets signs were poorly attached because I have seen lots of hers falling off their holders next to others that are just fine.

  3. Bladerunner
    May 3, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Flowerszzz,

    While you may be correct about Janet’s signs, it’s an old campaign comeback when accused of taking down an opponents signs to protest that the signs were flimsy, the wind blew them away, or El Brazo Onofre took them down.

    Former State Senator Paul Carpenter, who district overlapped the 1st S.D., and who used to pay for each sign of his opponent that people brought him, used to blame cheap, non-union signs for failing to hold up when they suddenly disappeared.

  4. Yea Right
    May 3, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Flowerszzz (aka Lisa Raye), and let me guess, the signs were so flimsy that they automatically cut into 5 pieces flew onto the other side of the fence and into a pile. Dream on, the only reason the signs are going down is because they’re being ripped and cut.

  5. Flowerszzz
    May 3, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    yea right – lol nice try on the name….but try again, the one I saw by my office was not ripped up – just hanging by a thread. It is in between a few Dina signs….it has been put back up right now. Did not look to me like anyone tampered, just not hung very well.

  6. Joey
    May 4, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Bladerunner,

    What does Paul Carpenter have to do with this???

    Have you ever put up signs?

    Most of the time, campaign volunteers place signs during the night and attempt to do this as quickly as possible.

    This causes for many of the problems with signs coming down. Of course, wind is factor when you have signs crews afraid of cracking some sprinkler pvc pipe or creating to much of a distraction from traveling honking motorist.

    Other times, students walking to and from school will tamper with signs then all of a sudden professional campaigners claim that it was the opposing candidate.

  7. Give me a Break
    May 4, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    So let me understand….The 4×8 just happened to be cut up in 5 pieces.

  8. May 4, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Give me a Break,

    The 4×8 just happened to be CUT up in five pieces by the WIND.

  9. Give me a Break
    May 4, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Okay Chris,

    Quit dreaming by the way I hear there is more footage.

  10. May 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    Give me a Break.

    I’m not seriously believing the suggestion by the previous commenter that it was blown down and cut by the wind. No comment was meant to highlight (like you were) how stupid the suggestion was.

    I have no more footage at this time…

    But this race isn’t over until June 3rd. I’m sure there will be many other opportunities to post interesting video.

  11. Bladerunner
    May 4, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    joey, joey, yes, I’ve put up signs. Hundreds. And they don’t come down unless someone takes them down. There are a few exceptions–Flowerzzz may have one but even she can not be sure–but most signs that come down nowdays come down because someone takes them down. Most of the signs are put up on stakes, fences, commercial property and are either staked or secured with nails or plastic ties. Even most of the lawn signs are stapled or put on metal and are far more secure than the signs of old.

    The sign of Janet’s that perhaps someone took down is a classic example. Double metal staked and plastic attached. That sign did not come down without someone taking it down. No pvc in the way. No wind gonna blow this puppy down. Unless it was a Tran Wind.

    joey, maybe you can get the message to the sign snipers that hit janet’s sign that this was pretty sloppy and/or stupid work. You don’t leave the evidence at the scene . And they compounded the error by putting another sign right in its place. This leaves some to suspect that the people who put up the Hoa sign might have had something to do with taking down the Janet sign. So unless the Dina folks are really clever and put a Hoa sign up to set him up for the blame, Hoa’s supporters, be they free lance or campaign staffers or campaign “volunteers” become the primary suspects.

    And joey, maybe you flunked history, but Paul Carpenter was an example of a tradition of sign sniping in the area, some empiricism to throw at the only thing I suspect is flimsy around here—the argument that the wind blew this sign down.

  12. May 4, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    I concur Bladerunner….. By the way I hear there are 2 more videos of other locations that Hoa’s people hit…… It’s too bad that the Democrat party is letting this go on…. It’s only making them look bad.

  13. May 4, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    I am 100% certain that the DPOC has no control over what Edgardo’s boys do.

  14. May 4, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Then they should do something and stop hosting stupid fundraisers… Hey anybody get the call from their volunteers stating that they will get free meds from Hoa if he wins…..

  15. May 4, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Again, there is not much the Party can do if Hoa chooses to allow it to continue. I have said previously that people in the Dem Party warned Hoa about Edgardo. He chose not to listen.

  16. Joey
    May 5, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Bladerunner, Bladerunner tell me who you are before you take credit for physically putting up hundreds of signs.

    I meant signs in the streets not candidate placecards placed on the walls of a campaign office.

    I never said that people don’t pull down signs so please re-read what I wrote. Remember, “school aged kids going to and from school” was what I wrote. School kids, walking by these signs pull or cut these signs with thier pencils or pens, little brothers with their three brothers in front of them try to impress them by being destructive to a sign.

    I’ll give you one point though, sometimes paid volunteers will pull down signs for the mere sake of immaturity.

    But no, a campaign would be extremely stupid to give such direct orders.

    Instead, volunteers are kind of built up by the campaign, with suggestions like the opposing candidate is a racist and doesn’t like mexican people. Sound familiar? I can see maybe a campaign saying these things to the younger volunteer because they want to get their hearts involved in the campaign.

    Of course, when this kid goes out to put up the supporting candidates signs and comes acrossthe opossng candidates sign the immaturity sometimes sets in.

    You should know that campaigns know that the best way to get the most of their volunteers is to make the issue closet as possible to home. hearing things like Janet hates Mexicans will probable not bring out the best actions from people who considers themselves mexican or care deeply about their mexican parents.

    I’m not giving an excuse for this but if you have been around campaigns as you say you have you should know the campaign focus for these young ,paid or not paid, workers is to “pump” them up with how the other candidate is the “boggie wo-man/man ” and our candidate is our solution to opur problems”

    Direct orders to take down signs not likely from a sane caimpaign!

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