Does This Sound Like A Condemnation To You?

Recently I emailed Supervisor Janet Nguyen and asked her what her position was in regards to the professional protesters in Little Saigon.  As you may know I received a response from Janet yesterday and here is what she had to say:

 

I support people exercising their freedom of speech in a peaceful and law-abiding way.”

-Supervisor Janet Nguyen

 

Myself and others here at the LiberalOC believe that this falls quite short of a condemnation of the professional protesters.  Janet’s shills and apologists in the local blogosphere call this a complete and total condemnation and have opined that we are somehow lacking the faculties to comprehend this.

I’d like to know what you think.  Did Janet’s position condemn or support the protesters?  Or do you think that she took no position at all and is straddling the fence on the issue?

  16 comments for “Does This Sound Like A Condemnation To You?

  1. April 17, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    she said nothing. she will continue to say nothing on this matter. and let this be a lesson to those who didnt show up on election day the day she won. it’s so importand to make time on election days.

  2. April 17, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Jose,

    I couldn’t agree with you more. Voters need to make sure they get to the polls and cast their vote on election day. I encourage all Dems and Latinos to make sure that they vote for Hoa Van Tran.

    Hoa is the only one who we can count on to push a progressive agenda. Also Hoa is the only candidate that hasn’t used the Latino community as her personal pinata’ to bash just to get votes.

    Janet and the Trannies have quite a record of Latino bashing. Don’t forget when voting in June.

  3. Janet and the Dems
    April 17, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Sean,
    No this doesnt sound like a condemnation of the violent vietnamese protestors at all. She is showing no spine or leadership in this instance.

    By the way, to follow up on another commentor regarding janet, why and how is it that janet nguyen is passing notes to the editor of The LIBERAL OC and Phil Becerra, a Democratic Party operative?

    is janet nguyen really going to switch from Rep to Dem? And if so ill you back her over Hoa Tran since she will then be the incumbent?

  4. April 17, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    You’ll have to ask Phil and Chris as to why they are “passing notes” for Janet. I wouldn’t read too much into it. Phil is friendly with her and such.

    I don’t know anything about her switching to the Democratic party.

    I will however be supporting Hoa for this seat regardless of Janet’s party registration.

  5. virus
    April 17, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Sean,

    I copied a post from the Orange Juice blog. Now you know why Janet answered your question the way she did.
    ——————————————————————-
    Here is the article with the url:
    http://www.vietnamexodus.org/vne/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3397

    You can skip the Vietnamese language and look at these pictures. All of them were taken in front of Nguoi Viet Daily News around the lunar new year in February 2008.

    The first picture shows from L to R: Andrew Do (Janet’s chief of staff and personal attorney), Janet, Bill Dalton (Mayor of GG city), then Doan Trong (a man with an orange cap), who was arrested few weeks ago with an assault charge.

    The second picture shows L to R: again the same order with an unknown man.

    The third picture shows the same order.

    And the last picture shows Nick Lecong (with a camera), an unknown man (showing his back), then Doan Trong, Bill Dalton, Janet and Andrew.

    Obviously, Janet knew nothing about the Asian/Vietnamese tradition. She participated in a cursing/damning rite against Nguoi Viet Daily on the holiest day of the new year.

    With these pictures, Art can’t say that Janet and her cohorts did not side with the protesters from the beginning.

  6. April 18, 2008 at 12:55 am

    There is nothing unsusal at all about me getting an email from Janet Nguyen through a mutual friend communicating some information related to a post on TheLiberalOC. Especially given my position as Publisher and Senior Editor of this blog. I would not call this “passing notes.” I have friends who are registered Democrats, Republicans, DTS, Green, Libertarians, etc. This fact does not change my party affiliation or political perspective. That would be about as absurd as suggesting that I am secretly not gay because I have some friends who are not gay.

  7. April 18, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Regarding the comment made by “Virus,” I will concur that the people in the photo are as indicated, It cannot be determined by looking at this picture that this is some “cursing/damning” right against Nguoi Viet Daily. Quite frankly, I doubt it was. My guess, it was a celebration ceremony related to the Lunar New Year.

  8. Virus
    April 18, 2008 at 6:36 am

    Chris,

    In the Asian culture, worship is a very sacred and private matter. One would have an altar inside a home and at a proper place. The lunar year is also a special time to worship and memorialize ancestors.

    One never, I repeat NEVER, puts up an altar in front of your opponent’s business or home to pray. First, that act is to pray for your opponent’s downfall. Second, it is to pray for your superiority over your opponent. Third, it is to pray for the deaths of your opponent’s ancestors, if not yet occur. And the timing is not coincidental; it is a perfect time for this.

    BTW, this is understood by everyone whether you are Catholics, Buddhists, etc… in Asian culture, except few persons, Janet included.

    It is NOT a celebration ceremony related to the lunar new year. In addition, these pictures didn’t show the participation of two fired editors of Nguoi Viet Daily News. They were there a moment earlier.

  9. April 18, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Virus,

    Thank you very much for the link to that story and especially to the pictures. It clearly shows Janet at the Nguoi Viet Daily protest site. Don’t worry the though, the blogowhiners and Janet apologists will always find some way to protect their girl even if it includes lying.

    Just look at how her “fan club” twisted her own words and turned them into a “condemnation” of the protesters.

  10. just...asking?
    April 18, 2008 at 8:52 am

    Virus,

    I’m a practicing Catholic and have never known of these prayers against a business or cursing of ancestors that you speak of. Maybe its practiced by a few, but in no way is it common practice or universally understood. What I can’t understand by your comments about the events in the pictures is…were you there? Do you really know that this was a prayer to curse the business and their ancestors? If so, not only Janet, but Bill Dalton also owes an apology to the residents and businesses of Garden Grove that believe in free speech protections of the Bill of Rights.

    Sean,

    I get the Janet/Art/Michelle/Miguel/Sal/Sean back and forth stuff that you all have not resolved, but why single out Janet? Which Vietnamese elected official to you has come out strongly against the protesters?

    From the little I’ve followed this issue I don’t think any have been too couragous in support of the business’s rights to freedom of speech! To single out Janet and not the trannies seems a bit odd.

  11. Dan Chmielewski
    April 18, 2008 at 9:03 am

    I’m sorry, but what sort of God would hear the prayers form someone calling for the deaths of their opponents or death of their opponent’s family or ancestors. I have opponents with an R or a C next to their names, and while I believe they are wrong on issues of politics, I certainly don’t pray for their deaths. There is no way Virus, you can say that prayer is sacred when it calls for someone’s death.

  12. April 18, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Just…Asking?,

    This has nothing to with anyone else in the blogosphere, certainly not the blogowhiners and Janet apologists. This is about Janet and Janet alone.

    None of the Vietnamese electeds have come out strongly against the protesters. Shame on them. Hoa Van Tran, hopefully a soon to be elected from the Vietnamese, community has come out and taken a stance that is critical of the proffessional protesters and extremist agitators.

    The reason I have focused on Janet and not the “Trannies” is because she portrays herself as the “anti-Trannie” and yet she takes a position exactly like theirs. I wouldn’t expect the “Trannies” to do the right thing, they generally don’t. Janet however claims to be different and yet has proven to be more of the same.

  13. April 18, 2008 at 10:13 am

    no sean i wont forget in june. did you see that new bolsavik blog? it’s pretty good.

  14. April 18, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Jose,

    I have seen the Bolsavik blog. I agree he does do a very good job covering all things Little Saigon.

  15. just...asking?
    April 18, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Sean,

    Art claims Janet is different than the trannies, but has Janet?

    She is taking the arrows from them for supposedly turning on one of their own. But in all the reading of stories and posts, I’ve never heard her proclaim anything against them.

    I agree its pretty obvious with the lawsuits/protests/blog crazies that have gone after her that the trannies are behind all this.

    There are a lot of positions and votes cast by Janet that I don’t agree with and wouldn’t support her for, but this issue is not one of them. I’m more displeased that she just votes along with the majority to cement her big name Reep endorsements.

    I think Hoa is a good alternative, but centering on the communist issues only rally the trannie wingnuts. Hope I’m wrong and Santa Ana comes out and strongly supports Hoa, without that I see Janet clearing the 50% mark in June.

  16. April 18, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    just…asking at 8:52 AM

    I’m a practicing Catholic and have never known of these prayers against a business or cursing of ancestors that you speak of.

    I think Virus’ description was a little unclear, he meant this is a Vietnamese or Asian tradition that transcends Buddhism or Catholicism. Are you Asian just asking? (Just asking) Virus seems to be. I find this all fascinating information.

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