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	<title>Comments on: The Bridges of Orange County:  Why Democrats &amp; Latinos Need To Support Hoa Van Tran</title>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:

Go re-read what I wrote because I said you set your standards higher for Hoa than the other candidates you mentioned. I wasn&#039;t talking about setting standards higher than the general public. 

Believe me when I say I know you.

I run into people like you daily. 

The parent who complains to me why their son/daughter is not learning baseball meanwhile they don&#039;t lift a finger to offer minimal assistance.

The parent who complains about schools but doesn&#039;t do anything proactive to fix the issues, while I&#039;m an active PTA member and public schools financial donor.

The person that points out that someone is littering but dosn&#039;t pick up thrash as it passes them on the street.

The person that has all the suggestions about making our community a better place but doesn&#039;t understand that talkiing about something is not a substitute for doing something.

Standards. I meet them everyday, how about you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:</p>
<p>Go re-read what I wrote because I said you set your standards higher for Hoa than the other candidates you mentioned. I wasn&#8217;t talking about setting standards higher than the general public. </p>
<p>Believe me when I say I know you.</p>
<p>I run into people like you daily. </p>
<p>The parent who complains to me why their son/daughter is not learning baseball meanwhile they don&#8217;t lift a finger to offer minimal assistance.</p>
<p>The parent who complains about schools but doesn&#8217;t do anything proactive to fix the issues, while I&#8217;m an active PTA member and public schools financial donor.</p>
<p>The person that points out that someone is littering but dosn&#8217;t pick up thrash as it passes them on the street.</p>
<p>The person that has all the suggestions about making our community a better place but doesn&#8217;t understand that talkiing about something is not a substitute for doing something.</p>
<p>Standards. I meet them everyday, how about you?</p>
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		<title>By: Correction...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Correction...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So accept for a $500.00 donation from Mr. Barbaro, why are the big three and others not supporting Hoa?  Folks, you can attack me all you want, but that is one of the big questions of the day.  And you bet I set my standards higher, not just for Hoa, but for every candidate.  Should voters expect with less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So accept for a $500.00 donation from Mr. Barbaro, why are the big three and others not supporting Hoa?  Folks, you can attack me all you want, but that is one of the big questions of the day.  And you bet I set my standards higher, not just for Hoa, but for every candidate.  Should voters expect with less?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:
It is interesting how you set a higher standard for Hoa than Lou or Loretta.

You want Hoa to walk everyday, yet candidates in the past walked as many door as &quot;possible&quot;

You want Hoa to raise money,  yet candidates in the past committed &quot;several hours a day for fund-raising&quot;. (Are you sure they  did this on there first go around, me thinks definitely was not happening on a daily basis)

Then besides, can you imagine how limited the pool of donors there are as opposed to a congressional or state seat. This is a supervisor office. I think there&#039;s little doubt that state and national candidates in winnable elections have an infinite amount of potential donors as opposed to a local supervisor.  

I watched the video of Hoa and the Young Democrats meeting and I was extremely impressed of his command of his speech. I watched Janet and Dina at the California republican party endorsements committee meeting and was really disappointed. I honestly believe that my 4th grade daughter could have presented a better job at public speaking.   

Given that, if I were in your flip flops, I would stop putting barriers for Hoa and help him get the volunteers, help him walk the neighborhoods, and help him raise the funds.

Perhaps instead of feeling compelled to tell others what to do while questioning others who are actually doing something, consider setting an acceptable standard for candidates who it sounds like did not have the enrolling in your highly acclaimed politic 101 course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:<br />
It is interesting how you set a higher standard for Hoa than Lou or Loretta.</p>
<p>You want Hoa to walk everyday, yet candidates in the past walked as many door as &#8220;possible&#8221;</p>
<p>You want Hoa to raise money,  yet candidates in the past committed &#8220;several hours a day for fund-raising&#8221;. (Are you sure they  did this on there first go around, me thinks definitely was not happening on a daily basis)</p>
<p>Then besides, can you imagine how limited the pool of donors there are as opposed to a congressional or state seat. This is a supervisor office. I think there&#8217;s little doubt that state and national candidates in winnable elections have an infinite amount of potential donors as opposed to a local supervisor.  </p>
<p>I watched the video of Hoa and the Young Democrats meeting and I was extremely impressed of his command of his speech. I watched Janet and Dina at the California republican party endorsements committee meeting and was really disappointed. I honestly believe that my 4th grade daughter could have presented a better job at public speaking.   </p>
<p>Given that, if I were in your flip flops, I would stop putting barriers for Hoa and help him get the volunteers, help him walk the neighborhoods, and help him raise the funds.</p>
<p>Perhaps instead of feeling compelled to tell others what to do while questioning others who are actually doing something, consider setting an acceptable standard for candidates who it sounds like did not have the enrolling in your highly acclaimed politic 101 course.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction,

Hoa has been out walking precincts every day as have the workers that he has in his office.  We should get behind him because we can&#039;t let Janet or Dina win the seat.  Maybe if the big money folks see that Hoa has the support of the people the money will flow in on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction,</p>
<p>Hoa has been out walking precincts every day as have the workers that he has in his office.  We should get behind him because we can&#8217;t let Janet or Dina win the seat.  Maybe if the big money folks see that Hoa has the support of the people the money will flow in on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Correction...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Correction...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, Sean, you should consider that Hoa may not be a good candidate.  I am a Democrat, but I am not going to support someone just because they are a Democrat.  They have to prove that they want to be in office and work hard for the community.  For me, that means, how many households are they walking?  Are they walking everyday?  How many hours are they walking?  Are they walking on weekends?  All day?  How many un-paid volunteers are walking for him?  20? 30?  Are they raising enough money to compete?  Are they recruiting enough volunteers for their campaign to sustain them for the duration.  Campaign 101 = votes, volunteers and funding.

Lou and Loretta did not have any support when they ran the first time, which is very true.  But they knocked on every possible door, attended every pancake breakfast, committed several hours a day to &quot;call time&quot; to raise money - even putting themselves into debt, and asked every person on the street to join their campaign to make a difference in their neighborhood.

At this point, Hoa has done very little of these things, thus he does not inspire me to support him.  Until then, I will support candidates like Lou, Loretta, Katrina, Sharon, Kim Oanh, Jose, Michelle and Jordan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, Sean, you should consider that Hoa may not be a good candidate.  I am a Democrat, but I am not going to support someone just because they are a Democrat.  They have to prove that they want to be in office and work hard for the community.  For me, that means, how many households are they walking?  Are they walking everyday?  How many hours are they walking?  Are they walking on weekends?  All day?  How many un-paid volunteers are walking for him?  20? 30?  Are they raising enough money to compete?  Are they recruiting enough volunteers for their campaign to sustain them for the duration.  Campaign 101 = votes, volunteers and funding.</p>
<p>Lou and Loretta did not have any support when they ran the first time, which is very true.  But they knocked on every possible door, attended every pancake breakfast, committed several hours a day to &#8220;call time&#8221; to raise money &#8211; even putting themselves into debt, and asked every person on the street to join their campaign to make a difference in their neighborhood.</p>
<p>At this point, Hoa has done very little of these things, thus he does not inspire me to support him.  Until then, I will support candidates like Lou, Loretta, Katrina, Sharon, Kim Oanh, Jose, Michelle and Jordan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think once more people start learning about Hoa and what Hoa stands for you will see more folks support his campaign.  That being said, Hoa is more about getting the support of the people of the First District than he is getting the backing of the electeds.

He is inline with the majority of the blue collar working folks and with the Latino community on most issues.  That is what matters.

Loretta and Lou did not get much support from local electeds when they first ran and look at the successes they have had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think once more people start learning about Hoa and what Hoa stands for you will see more folks support his campaign.  That being said, Hoa is more about getting the support of the people of the First District than he is getting the backing of the electeds.</p>
<p>He is inline with the majority of the blue collar working folks and with the Latino community on most issues.  That is what matters.</p>
<p>Loretta and Lou did not get much support from local electeds when they first ran and look at the successes they have had.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoa Van Who</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoa Van Who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, 
When will Sal Tinajero, Mayor Miguel Pulido, Claudia Alvarez, Vincent Sarmiento, Michele Martinez and David Benavides endorse Hoa? Why are the electeds in the largest city in the First District keeping mum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,<br />
When will Sal Tinajero, Mayor Miguel Pulido, Claudia Alvarez, Vincent Sarmiento, Michele Martinez and David Benavides endorse Hoa? Why are the electeds in the largest city in the First District keeping mum?</p>
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