Comments on: “In God we Trust” is making a come back in more than one City Council Meeting

By: just...asking?

just...asking? — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:18:36 +0000

I agree with NCS that letting others set the battleground weakens ones position. But even with this issue Debbie could have hid and abstained, instead she stood her ground and made some great comments on the divisive issue. Debbie even offered a viable alternative solution that respected all but the hardest positions.

I have to also agree with NCS on Vern and SMS. I gave up on SMS’s rants a few weeks ago. As for Vern, I like him and many of his positions, just find it difficult to enjoy reading his posts.

I used to visit and enjoy the Juice several times a day, now unless another site references a significant post I just don’t get it.

By: Northcountystorm

Northcountystorm — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:03:23 +0000

Art—it’s good to hear that Vern’s posts are getting some hits. They actually might make some good filler spaced between your re-elect Janet posts.

By: Sean H. Mill

Sean H. Mill — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:25:08 +0000

Dan,

Of course that is what it is all about for Pedroza and the folks at the OJ.

They post inflammatory, and in many cases untrue, things solely to get hits on their site.

Why do you think he added SMS? It couldn’t be for the quality writing.

By: Dan Chmielewski

Dan Chmielewski — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:17:45 +0000

Art. With all due respect, if you are posting only to get hits and not writing about things you believe in, than items being posted aren’t worth reading.

By: Art Pedroza

Art Pedroza — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:52:09 +0000

Northcountystorm,

For the record, Vern’s posts at the Orange Juice are amongst our top posts right now and are getting tons of hits. Take a look at our numbers on Sitemeter. We are right there with Liberal OC on hits and way past you folks on page views. A lot of that is due to Vern’s stellar commenting.

If we are not going to stand for what we believe in we may as well not believe in anything.

By: Dan Chmielewski

Dan Chmielewski — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:22:13 +0000

I just wonder what part of “In God We Trust” applies to Dana Rohrabacher? This is a guy who told war protesters testifying before a congressional subcommittee that he hoped “their families are the next ones” hit in a terrorist attack. So much for “Love thy Neighbor” Dana…

If the right wants to make this a wedge issue, let’s turn it around on them and ask “What would Dana Do?” Because his votes and positions would hardly be in line with what a “Good Christian” would support.

By: Vern Nelson

Vern Nelson — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:03:41 +0000

Heather, my report on last night’s HB meeting is up now, and it links to your article, so I won’t complain if you link to me in the future!

http://www.theorangejuice.com/2008/04/jill-and-debbie-shine-in-hb-god.html – pretty entertaining if I say so myself

NCS! You made it back from O’Hara’s Pub?

By: Heather Pritchard

Heather Pritchard — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:24:23 +0000

NCS- I do understand your point and I think it’s completely valid but at the same time, I also believe that running from such fights will not make them go away. I also believe it’s important to know when to pick your battles and maybe for Mayor Cook, this was a battle she wanted to fight.

I think I have more issue with a group calling itself non-partisan and yet having members on it who are clearly Republican partisans. So it’s more complicated to me than just the phrase “In God we Trust”.

By: Sean H. Mill

Sean H. Mill — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:05:37 +0000

“I donâ€™t think all Democrats need to â€œtoe the lineâ€ but I do think that Democrats in Red areas need to pick their fights, not get goaded into them.”

I must agree wholeheartedly with NCS on that point. This whole issue was raised as a wedge issue to get Debbie Cook on the record against it. Dana will now use it to bludgeon her. Mission accomplished by the right.

In the past I would have wanted Debbie to stand her ground and fight. I now realize that the war must be fought strategically and only take the fights that will help win the war.