As we have been reading here on the Liberal OC and elsewhere in the blogosphere there is a debate raging the outting of anonymous bloggers. My fellow blogger Chris Prevatt and this blog have come under attack from folks angry over Chris revealing that homophobic slurs posted on this blog originated from a computer at Tardif Sheet Metal in Santa Ana. Mike Tardif, the owner of the company, has since taken responsibility.
One of the loudest voices attacking Chris, myself and this blog in response to the Tardif outting has been the Orange Juice’s Art Pedroza. Pedroza is a political ally of Mr. Tardif and Tardif gave money and support to the “No on D” campaign that Pedroza was so heavily involved. He wrote a post on Friday which seriously attacked Chris and myself over this issue in an attempt to provide cover for his ally and friend.
The outting of Tardif was not the first time something like this has happened in the local blogosphere. In 2004 on the Yahoo Santa Ana Citizens site two bloggers using the pseudonyms “John McRickenidge” and “Edwin Marinez” were outted and identified as a staffer for then State Assemblyman Lou Correa. The reason for the outting of these two identities was do to the difference of political opinions with many in the Santa Ana Citizens group. At the head of that list was none other than Art Pedroza.
I spoke to a source familiar with that 2004 controversy on the condition of anonymity earlier this evening and they told that it was indeed Pedroza and another unnamed political operative that were behind the exposing of Correa’s staffers and that it was done entirely for political revenge. As a result of their efforts a Correa staffer, Douglas Vogel, was fired.
Pedroza even went as far as contacting the Assembly rules committee and the Attorney Generals office to call for an official investigation of Lou Correa and his staff. Pedroza was driven to destroy Correa and his office because he did not the political pontificating of certain posters on the Santa Ana Citizens site. For the record it was this site that led Pedroza to create the Orange Juice.
During the course of my investigation into finding more information about the outting of “McRickenidge” and “Marinez” I found a very interesting posting from Pedroza in which he explains to readers on the site how to track the IP addresses of those posting. The January 27, 2004 post clearly demonstrates Pedroza’s hypocrisy in attacking Chris, myself and the Liberal OC over the Tardif fiasco.
RE: Proof that state computers were used by “McRickenidge” and “Marinez”
Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:15 pm
Here is what you need to do to verify the allegations:
1. Go to message 8910 in our email group – the link is
2. Click on “View Source.” This is the third link available just above
the message itself.
3. You will now see what appears to be a bunch of gibberish. Go down
until you see “From: John McRickenidge.” The next line is:
X-Originating-IP: 188.8.131.52. Copy the numbers “184.108.40.206.”
4. Now go to http://centralops.net/co/. Click on the first link
offered “Domain Dossier.”
5. Paste the numbers “220.127.116.11” in the box titled “domain or IP
address. Now click the “go” button.
6. Now go down the page to “Network Whois Record.”
7. You will clearly see that the IP address for the computer that “John
McRickenidge” used originated from this physical address: 1020 N Street,
Suite 420, Sacramento.
8. Now go to message 5727, at
9. Same drill. Click on view source, copy the IP #, and then go to
http://centralops.net/co/. and so through the same steps you went through
last time. Voila. It turns out that “Edwin Marinez” is also a fake name
and the fellow who sent that message did so from the same office in
10. As far as I know, Correa’s office in Sacramento is in room #6025;
however I believe that a little more research could help us identify who
used this computer to send the message in question. No question that the
computer was a state asset, and as such we could compel the legislature to
give up the information. I think a Senate investigation would not be out of
I have taken a lot of heat since I asked Correa to step up and explain all
of this, especially from you Howard. The proof as they say is in the
pudding, so now I fully expect you to join me in calling on Correa to
explain why his surrogates, or others in the employ of the State Assembly,
joined our group using a false identity, and why they attacked community
leaders in our city under a cloak of lies – and why they did so on state
When Chris Prevatt asked Art how outting Tardif was any different from his exposing Rutan&Tucker for being on the Orange Juice site Pedroza responded, “No. It is quite different. It is one thing to show that someone is reading a site. Anyone can dig that up using Sitemeter. It is quite another to do what you did. To purposefully research an IP address in order to put the screws to someone because you disagree with their opinion.”
Well it certainly appears that Pedroza thought much differently back in 2004. He will claim that he only did it to expose someone for using a state computer and engaging in political activity with it. However the question you must ask yourself is why did Pedroza want to investigate who “McRickenidge” and “Marinez” were in the first place?
Clearly the answer is it was because he disagreed with their opinions and once he found out who they were he sought to put the screws to them. This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black when Pedroza attacks Chris and this blog. As I said previously this is just a case of faux outrage and hypocrisy on the part of Pedroza.
Now lets see if he’ll man up and admit as much. I won’t hold my breath. Will you?