I do believe that the decision to out Tardiff’s Company was a mistake. I think Jubal has the better practice over at Red County. Delete the offensive comment(and this was offensive) and warn the commenter that next time they will be banned.

Most anonymous commenters have an expectation of privacy as to their identity unless they have committed a crime. if you’re going to out people, set up a standard so people will know where the maginot Line really is

I want to commend you for standing up and apologizing. That is the mark of a true gentleman and I have much respect for you. I would hope that everyone would accept your apology and move on.

I also respect that you stand by your principles, though I strongly disagree with your position. I do believe that you have a right to your beliefs and that you should not be condemned for them.

Other than the comments which you apologized for you have always conducted yourself with respect and dignity. Though you disagree with folks you never come across as disagreeable. I wish I could say the same about myself.

Thank you for standing up and taking responsibility. As far as I am concerned that incident is closed and I hope others here do to. We must now focus on making our community a better place for all. I know that you will be a leader in that effort.

Believe when I say this Mike, you have my total respect. I hope this whole incident doesn’t prevent us from working together on making Santa Ana a better place.

Thank you.

Mike Tardif said: … – ouch that smarts. I am going to have to think about that.

Sean,

You are correct in pointing out that my apology was weak.

In my original post I referred to deviant behaviors which are illegal and suggested that by allowing gays full marriage rights that the gay community would be leading society toward the path of those deviant behaviors.

I want to fully apologize to the gay community for making those hurtful references. Those were rude and uncalled for statements, call them bigoted if you will.

I do however reserve my right to reasoned belief that allowing gays to marry will not lead to a beneficial outcome for society.

I know that this further apology will not satisfy everyone. However, I do sincerely regret my original post for the hurt it has caused.

Regards,

Mike Tardif

No. I’m sure you think I contradicted myself, but even if that were true — which I dispute — it wasn’t a non sequitur.

I was merely giving my personal opinion and sharing from my experience running a political blog that allows unmoderated anon commenting. You guys can run this place how you wish. it was advice from a peer offered in a spirit of respect.

“In my experience, simple, known and enforced rules of conduct are the best means of ensuring commenters don’t veer off into proscribed territory.”

AndI don’t believe we tell you how to run yours. And I don’t see rules of engagement on your site either.

There’’s no persistently posted rules. However, I’m pretty vigilant about policing the comments to the point where I am regularly and wrongly accused of censoring opinions with which I don’t agree. As part of that, I am frequently re-stating the rules of the comments section, and over the years readers have become familiar with what those rules are. Plus, I think new commenters tend to intuitively figure out the rules by reading existing commenters.

Again, advice offered from a peer in a spirit of respect. Try taking it that way.

Most of us know there are fairly simple ways to dig on ip’s to find out some very accurate data. Anyone on a computer should know that his/her activities can be traced

Maybe you do, but my ability doesn’t extend beyond the ARIS WHOIS Database Search. And when one pops an IP into it, 90% of the time it reveals the ISP of that IP user, and that’s it.

You all however have your times when rules are not applied consistanly.

No, I’m not 100% consistent, but I try to get as close as I can

When some bloggers post under different names you’ve outed those.

I’ve never revealed who they are. Sometimes — usually when someone is antagonizing me or someone else while using a different name for every comment — I’ll point out that the various names are actually one person. But I never say who they are.

You’ve even thrown names, employers and job roles out while trying to name bloggers.

When?

You’ve pointed out when Art has come into OCBlog under different names

Nope. Never have. For one thing, Art doesn’t comment on OC Blog under different names. There are some anon Trannies who keep making that allegation — and I have corrected that misperception for them.

Otherwise, I agree with your comment.

This will all die down soon enough.