***Ware Update***

The folks at Ware Disposal did not bother to take the weekend off from likely violating local, state and federal standards.  On early Saturday afternoon they were observed by folks in the Logan Neighborhood powerwashing their trash trucks and allowing the water to runoff into the streets, gutters and storm drains.  The combination of waste and water is quite likely toxic and could possibly be seeping into the ground water in the area.

City and county officials were notified of Ware’s wreckless behavior over the weekend and we can only hope that it will lead to some sort of penalties or criminal prosecution of Ware.  Lets keep the pressure on and make our voices heard.  I encourage everyone to call city hall at (714) 647-6900 and let them know that you are not happy about Ware’s activities in Logan.  Follow that up with a call to City Attorney Joseph “Fletch” Fletcher at (714) 647-5201 and demand that he bring Ware to justice and soon.

  39 comments for “***Ware Update***

  1. Andrew Davey
    February 11, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Sean-

    You’re doing the lord’s work. Thanks so much for keeping the pressure on Ware. Hopefully soon, our city government will grow some spine and do something about Ware’s literal trashing of Logan.

  2. Dick Cabeza
    February 11, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Can you smell that smell ?

    When that smell is Ware Disposal call the Air Quality Management District complaint hotline: (800) 288-7664.

  3. Lie Detector!
    February 11, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Hey Sean , you still taking money from the City? Time for a step down dont you think? Whydo you continue to take money from a City where Ware Disposal pays taxes and fees to better the City, and provide you a job. Look someplace else. I am calling on everyone to ask Sean Mills to resign from the Santa Ana city government!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Your bad for all business. Your comments are far from the truth, and your love of the barrio is fake. Over 100 families live and eat and sleep from the jobs that Judy Ware creates. What do you do? LIE?

  4. February 11, 2008 at 10:32 am

    Dear LD,

    First of all, I would hardly call $50 a meeting providing me a “job”.

    Second, the name is Mill not Mills.

    Third, I won’t be resigning from anything.

    Fourth, I have stood with Sam Romero for more than 20 years so my “love” is anything but “fake”.

    Lastly, please cite any “lie” on my part in regards to Ware and Logan.

  5. Dick Cabeza
    February 11, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Bottm line Sean,

    Alll councilmembers received benefit from Judy Ware’s support of Yes on D.

    Those councilmembers who supported Yes on D or did not oppose D are accessory to the crimes of Ware Disposal.

  6. February 11, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Dick Cabeza is absolutely right. The question to ponder is what did Pulido, Alvarez and Tinajero promise Ware Disposal in return for the thousands of dollars they gave to the Measure D campaign? What did they get for their money?

    Also, did these council members vote to give Ware permission, via a CUP, to expand in Logan? And have any of them received contributions from Ware? I think all the Pulido hacks have.

    BTW, complaints can also be directed to the EPA at http://www.epa.gov/oaintrnt/contact.htm .

  7. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Art, the Planning Commission would have voted on a CUP for Ware.

  8. JBW
    February 11, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    I just read your blog, and wanted to tell you that it is disturbing that you make up these lies. Sean, you and Dick continue harrassing Ware Disposal with outrageous accusations. You even stooped so low as to contact the fire department on Saturday to have us checked out, but the best part is that you stated waste water was running down the streets and in the gutters. These are lies! Your a liar and so is Dick.
    Your aimless attempt to use the Santa Ana fire department is repulsive. Even the fire department told you guys that Ware Disposal was doing nothing wrong and there was no water on any street or gutter! Stop your useless lies and using the Santa Ana peoples tax money on made up accusations and lies. Thats the real crime!

  9. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Sean, can you please post the list of violations that Ware Disposal has committed?

  10. February 11, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Art,

    You really need to move on from Measure D. There are a lot of folks that are beginning to tire of your constant rants that consist of very little facts and plenty of innuendos. The folks I am talking about aren’t in the “Pulido Cabal”, they are residents of Santa Ana including a number of whom live in the Logan area.

    Ware has not gotten a CUP from the city. Anon is correct, it would come before the Planning Commission. I know that it doesn’t fit you conspiracy theory rants, but you can’t simply purchase a CUP at Santa Ana City Hall by giving campaign contributions. Stop with the lies already.

  11. February 11, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    JBW,

    I did not contact the SAFD on Saturday or any other day. Perhaps you can have someone confirm that I did with a phone log or some other sort of proof. These type of lies are just more of the same from the Ware crew.

    Do you deny that trucks are routinely powerwashed at that location? We have eyewitnesses that can testify to the fact that they are.

  12. JBW
    February 11, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Fire calls and logs will be posted.
    “On early Saturday afternoon they were observed by folks in the Logan Neighborhood powerwashing their trash trucks and allowing the water to runoff into the streets, gutters and storm drains. ”

    you wrote this ….and your accusations are false. and you used the fire department to verify.

    you cannot deny! Get your facts straight!

  13. February 11, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    JBW,

    Again I never called the SAFD on Saturday or any other day. That is besides the point. The facts still remain that the Ware crew and their scofflaw attitude is destroying the Logan Neighborhood.

    Has Ware gotten the proper permits they need for the new properties they just purchased in Logan?

    Again, do you deny that trucks are powerwashed at the location? Do you deny that they were being powerwashed on Saturday?

    The next time you folks powerwash the trucks why don’t you invite folks from the city, county, state and federal enviromental agencies and let them decide if you are polluting or not?

    Please answer these questions before you try and spin this into a discussion about me calling the SAFD, which I did not.

  14. cook
    February 11, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    sue them. Looking to the government may not help. So whissle blowing sue them.

  15. PeaceLove&Grenade's
    February 11, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    JBW seems to be the least sharp knife in the drawer or the brightest crayon in the box as my daughter would say.

    How is posting on The Liberal OC harassing YOU I mean Ware? And if you aren’t Ware or one of her cronies why do you care?

  16. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Does Ware have the proper approvals to operate in their current capacity?

    Who granted these approvals?

  17. February 11, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    A suggestion – and this is not to imply the allegations are untrue – pictures. Show us pictures. Most phones have cameras, but if observant people nearby don’t have cameras or cell phones with one, provide some cheap disposable ones. Hell, I’ll chip in for a couple. But I want to see pictures. Getting into arguments on a blog might serve to vent some spleen, but it would be more helpful, not to mention dramatic, to slap a stack of pictures down on a table at a commission or council meeting and say, are you going to believe this or your lying eyes?

  18. February 11, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    Bill,

    There are plenty of pictures. Joe Andrade from the Logan Neighborhood sends almost daily emails with photos of Ware’s activities to many in the city of Santa Ana. Ask Michele, she is on his email list and has surely seen the photos.

    Also, Thomas Gordon has photos as well. He actually has photos of the powerwashing in action.

  19. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Sean,
    Just phtograph and if possible videotape the violations in action as they happen. I will get he eveidence tot he proper state agency. WARE disposal can be fined up to 27K a day everyday per violation if you have the proper evidence. Im an environmental scienist and environmental complience is my trade. You should know who i am by that.

  20. Anonymous
    February 11, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Does Ware have the proper approvals and permits to operate in their current capacity?

    Who granted these approvals? Planning Commission? City Council?

  21. February 11, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Sean,

    Take this person up on the offer.

    It’s good that there are pictures. Have someone speak at any and all public meetings. Prepare in advance the talking points. Read from notes, if necessary. Hold the pictures up. Wave them in the air. Slap them down on the table. And be sure to do it at (the few) televised meetings. Here, you preach to the choir.

    Then take it outside. Organize a blockade of their driveway. Just sit down. Peaceful, nothing violent. Get firm commitments. Make sure dozens of people show up along with the Register and Weekly.

    Find a sympathetic beat reporter at a television station. There’s going to be a slow news day soon. Or pitch it to the news director. The TV crew can catch a blockade on the way to or from a Carona appearance. This is sweeps month for the stations. They need some flash for their ratings. Give it to them. Off of the keyboard and onto the streets!

  22. Dick Cabeza
    February 11, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    JBW,

    How about moving your filthy facility to Floral Park or to your neighborhood?

    Why don’t you come down and spend a few weeks next to the hell hole you bring to the fine people of Logan Barrio?

    Sure, Logan is mixed use, industrial and residential. That doesn’t mean that a trash recycling facility should be located in a residential neighborhood.

    Why was the City stupid enough to allow your dirty, smelly and dangerous operation to locate in a neighborhood that is residential?

    Many cities require operations such as yours to be fully contained in an industrial building with proper fume and drainage control. Why doesn’t Santa Ana require such mitigating measures?

    Also, the City spends much of our money on a bloated bureaucracy, such as the 100 person Planning Department.

    And what do those 100 people plan? – how to destroy residential neighborhoods like Logan?

  23. anon
    February 11, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    Please clarify. I thought the Logan barrio was mixed of residents and businesses. Why is it Ware Disposal that needs to move? It sounds like Ware Disposal is just as much a part of Logan as the residents. They seem to have been there longer than alot of the residents. I think businesses have as much right as residents in that area. Maybe the businesses in the area should start complaining about how the residents live and operate…

  24. anon
    February 11, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Hey Dick,
    You speak of thefine people of the Logan barrio like you know more than two. Many of these people work at Ware. Perhaps, you need facts not fiction. That smell you speak of is the County burning bodies! Maybe a trip to Logan would help you fix your facts. I know you don’t live there. Whats your cause. If you want Ware out talk to the City about a relocation …maybe they have a solution. Be part of the fix not part of the problem

  25. Dick Cabesa
    February 11, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    I have a problem with only one business in Logan. Ware Disposal should not have been located in a residential area, whether Logan is mixed use or not.

    The crematorium is a private concern it is not run by the county. If the crematorium is violating Air Quality regs and laws I say hold them accountable also.

    I have a problem with Ware’s snot nose attorney, pat munoz, r.b. esq. who says “bulldoze those crummy shacks in Logan.” Do you suppose he means some of the homes Ware’s employees live in?

    I say bulldoze Ware Disposal and build a park for the people of Logan.

  26. art lomeli
    February 11, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    My understanding is that there are standing codes specific to the industrial businesses in the ares in question.

    At a past RSP meeting I attended, city staff acknowledged the existance of the codes and that a large number of businesses in that area were violating the standing codes.

    I am confused as to the accusations back and forth, in this case between the Logan residents and Ware Disposal.

    To me the solution is simple. Have the City Council direct code enforcement to enforce the violations, by citing and finig the violators. What is so difficult about this?

    Can someone inform the rest of us why the council does not direct staff to enforce the code violations?

    The buck stops with the Council. The argument here should be directed at the council. The argument directed at the business is shielding the council’s responsibility and is limited in outcome.

    This method of attacking the business does serve the purpose of publically championing a cause though.

  27. thesunkenroad
    February 11, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    I’m with Bill. Post the photos here. If the investigative work is solid, and if negotiation with Ware is impossible, make big blow-ups and take them to the televised council meetings. Issue a press release and block their driveway. I agree with Bill totally when he wrote this:

    It’s good that there are pictures. Have someone speak at any and all public meetings. Prepare in advance the talking points. Read from notes, if necessary. Hold the pictures up. Wave them in the air. Slap them down on the table. And be sure to do it at (the few) televised meetings. Here, you preach to the choir.

    Then take it outside. Organize a blockade of their driveway. Just sit down. Peaceful, nothing violent. Get firm commitments. Make sure dozens of people show up along with the Register and Weekly.

    Find a sympathetic beat reporter at a television station. There’s going to be a slow news day soon. Or pitch it to the news director. The TV crew can catch a blockade on the way to or from a Carona appearance. This is sweeps month for the stations. They need some flash for their ratings. Give it to them. Off of the keyboard and onto the streets!

    BILL IS RIGHT. FOLLOW MLKjr’s praxis… direct action is the last resort of a principled campaign and it can save the day when the setting is right.

    j

  28. Mike Tardif
    February 11, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Art Lomeli,

    Yes, following up and prosecuting code violations here is important.

    Another issue is the uncertainty that the Renaissance Plan will bring to to Logan. The plan appears to be on hold and in revision.

    Residents and businesses of Logan should become familiar with the changes the plan will bring to their neighborhood. They should determine what changes they would like to see made to the plan to make their community better.

    They should be prepared to speak to the city regarding their concerns in a unified voice.

  29. art lomeli
    February 12, 2008 at 9:46 am

    Mike,

    My understanding is that the only change to the the RSP will be to the Industrial businesses.

    Only they will be considered for the Anaheim triangle overlay concept.

    The Industrial businesses will also have the non-confroming status removed.

    My information is that nothing will change from the RSP as has been presented relative to the rest of those within the RSP boundaries.

    I understand Logan is in negotiations relative to how the Industrial businesses should accomodate their quality of life and how closure of Washington St. affects them. They should continue protecting their interests.

  30. Mike Tardif
    February 12, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Art,

    Yes, the focus of the City’s RSP revision is on the industrial. And, I believe, on the residential/business relationship in Logan.

    The plan is on hold and if those in Logan see a way to improve the RSP I think that the City would be willing to listen to their concerns.

    I agree that they should continue to protect their interests.

  31. Anon
    February 12, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    The poster “JBW,” I wonder if it’s Judy Ware or Jay Ware. Either way, if it is, at least the Wares are reading about our complaints. I wonder if they even care?

  32. February 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Anon,

    One thing we do know is that Ware’s lawyers at Rutan & Tucker have been spending an awful lot of time monitoring the Ware stories on this blog. I am sure that if Judy doesn’t read it herself she gets a report from Patrick “Crummy Little Houses” Munoz.

  33. thesunkenroad
    February 12, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Ware Disposal has other contracts pending and in need of renewal elsewhere in Orange County. A key tactic can be to go to relevant meetings with information from published sources about their conduct in Santa Ana. We can raise questions about their civic responsibility. Should a company conducting itself in this manner get contracts with other county communities? Do these communities really want such a company delivering services to them?

  34. Anonymous
    February 12, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Ware Disposal has contracts with Santa Ana, Irvine, Newport Beach, Costa Mesa, Laguna Woods, and Orange.

  35. Anonymous
    February 12, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Ware Disposal has a partnership with Home Depot.

  36. Anonymous
    February 12, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Avocado Heights and Laguna Woods Village are also places where they have contracts.

  37. Anonymous
    February 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    From Mill’s OJ report on Ware from last November: “Four of the five properties that were cited by city code enforcement officials have only been owned by Ware since September 7th of this year. In less than 66 days they have managed to rack up at least 13 code violations.”

    Get a list of these citations.

  38. Anonymous
    February 12, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Santa Ana’s code enforcement official:

    Code Enforcement Contact
    Fred Fix, M.P.A.
    Inspector – City of Santa Ana
    Planning and Building Agency – M19
    20 Civic Center Plaza
    Santa Ana, CA 92702
    714-667-2726 office
    714-647-5041 fax
    Fred is avaiable Wednesday – Saturday
    Email us
    AFix@ci.santa-ana.ca.us

  39. just...asking?
    February 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    Those issues dealing with runoff should be reported to the Evironmental Protection Agency (EPA). NPDES program dealing with stormwater and manmade runoff is a serious issue. The City has federal compliance mandate they must meet. If it is shown that they are not reacting to runoff issues with aggressive actions the sanctions are very severe.

    You will get the attention of those on the 8th floor, and they will be forced to do their job! Too bad this is what it takes to make anything happen in Santa Ana.

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