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	<title>Comments on: Senator Edwards Dropping out of the Race</title>
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		<title>By: OhioMom</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/01/30/senator-edwards-dropping-out-of-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-14003</link>
		<dc:creator>OhioMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an observer from the mother of all battleground states, I believe a vote for any democrat but John Edwards is a vote for McCain.  With either Obama or Clinton as the nominee, the dems will write off the south once again and be stuck with the swing state strategy that has worked so poorly in the past.  Neither of them has a chance here.

Oh, well.  Since President McCain has already been unofficially inaugurated, I will be voting for Edwards on March 4th as a matter of principle.  Rarely in the past has the most electable democrat also been the most progressive and most substantive, and were it not for the media blackout Edwards would be the frontrunner.  I have cut most ties with the corporate media, cancelling magazine subscriptions and turning off network and cable news.  My vote is a way not only to honor the most inspiring politican of my lifetime but also to raise my middle finger to CNN, NBC, and all the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an observer from the mother of all battleground states, I believe a vote for any democrat but John Edwards is a vote for McCain.  With either Obama or Clinton as the nominee, the dems will write off the south once again and be stuck with the swing state strategy that has worked so poorly in the past.  Neither of them has a chance here.</p>
<p>Oh, well.  Since President McCain has already been unofficially inaugurated, I will be voting for Edwards on March 4th as a matter of principle.  Rarely in the past has the most electable democrat also been the most progressive and most substantive, and were it not for the media blackout Edwards would be the frontrunner.  I have cut most ties with the corporate media, cancelling magazine subscriptions and turning off network and cable news.  My vote is a way not only to honor the most inspiring politican of my lifetime but also to raise my middle finger to CNN, NBC, and all the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Gillock</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/01/30/senator-edwards-dropping-out-of-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-13967</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Gillock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to waste your vote is to stay home or vote for someone who is not your first choice.

It is sad that so much attention was paid to the â€œFirst Black Candidateâ€ and the â€œFirst Woman Candidateâ€ that no one heard from the â€œFirst Class Candidate.â€

I already voted for John Edwards and I&#039;m proud of that vote.  I hope that I can be proud of the vote I cast in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to waste your vote is to stay home or vote for someone who is not your first choice.</p>
<p>It is sad that so much attention was paid to the â€œFirst Black Candidateâ€ and the â€œFirst Woman Candidateâ€ that no one heard from the â€œFirst Class Candidate.â€</p>
<p>I already voted for John Edwards and I&#8217;m proud of that vote.  I hope that I can be proud of the vote I cast in November.</p>
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		<title>By: Bladerunner</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/01/30/senator-edwards-dropping-out-of-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-13966</link>
		<dc:creator>Bladerunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama people who are trying to tell the Edwards voters how they should vote and telling some they are wasting their vote aren&#039;t doing Obama any favors. Edwards withdraws today and before the corpse is cold some of the Obama people are demanding the body parts. It&#039;s as unseemly as relatives fighting over the estate at the funeral.

Edwards ran a very strong, passionate campaign and his supporters were also passionate about not only Edwards but the issues he spoke about. For some,  they need a few days, maybe even until Tuesday before they make the switch from John to another candidate. For others, they may be like Chris Prevatt who will choose to go down with the ship and vote for Edwards. It&#039;s a principled decision and one that should be respected, not attacked.

I suspect a majority of California Edwards supporters (but not necesarily Edwards supporters in other states) would shift to Obama rather than Clinton.

If the Obama folks want to encourage that movement they should adopt the style of Bill Spaulding, a local Obama comandante. As you can see in the thread above, Bill is respectful, courteous and his praise for Edwards appears genuine rather then contrived, notwithstanding the fact that he realizes that his approach will encourage Edwards supporters who read his comment to think favorably of Obama (those who read his comment most likely are aware of his prior posts supporting Obama). The shift from Edwards to Obama (or for some, to Clinton) needs to come naturally rather then through argumentation. The Spaulding method will bear more fruit for Barack then anything I can think of. Except perhaps for a new Obama Girl video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama people who are trying to tell the Edwards voters how they should vote and telling some they are wasting their vote aren&#8217;t doing Obama any favors. Edwards withdraws today and before the corpse is cold some of the Obama people are demanding the body parts. It&#8217;s as unseemly as relatives fighting over the estate at the funeral.</p>
<p>Edwards ran a very strong, passionate campaign and his supporters were also passionate about not only Edwards but the issues he spoke about. For some,  they need a few days, maybe even until Tuesday before they make the switch from John to another candidate. For others, they may be like Chris Prevatt who will choose to go down with the ship and vote for Edwards. It&#8217;s a principled decision and one that should be respected, not attacked.</p>
<p>I suspect a majority of California Edwards supporters (but not necesarily Edwards supporters in other states) would shift to Obama rather than Clinton.</p>
<p>If the Obama folks want to encourage that movement they should adopt the style of Bill Spaulding, a local Obama comandante. As you can see in the thread above, Bill is respectful, courteous and his praise for Edwards appears genuine rather then contrived, notwithstanding the fact that he realizes that his approach will encourage Edwards supporters who read his comment to think favorably of Obama (those who read his comment most likely are aware of his prior posts supporting Obama). The shift from Edwards to Obama (or for some, to Clinton) needs to come naturally rather then through argumentation. The Spaulding method will bear more fruit for Barack then anything I can think of. Except perhaps for a new Obama Girl video.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Pritchard</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/01/30/senator-edwards-dropping-out-of-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-13965</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Pritchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B. Lamb, Crazy enough, there is another Heather Pritchard in Orange County!  So I don&#039;t think it&#039;s me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B. Lamb, Crazy enough, there is another Heather Pritchard in Orange County!  So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s me <img src='http://www.theliberaloc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kephart</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/01/30/senator-edwards-dropping-out-of-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-13964</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Kephart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about when you want your actions to be effective.
If you vote for Clinton or Obama, then your action will affect the 2008 election.
If you vote for someone else on principle, then your action will affect the 2012 election.

I was going to vote for Edwards. However, since he has withdrawn and I want my action to affect this election, I will vote for someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about when you want your actions to be effective.<br />
If you vote for Clinton or Obama, then your action will affect the 2008 election.<br />
If you vote for someone else on principle, then your action will affect the 2012 election.</p>
<p>I was going to vote for Edwards. However, since he has withdrawn and I want my action to affect this election, I will vote for someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Prevatt</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2008/01/30/senator-edwards-dropping-out-of-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-13962</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Prevatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lovable Curmudgeon said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;OK, principled one-
If you want your vote to affect the number of delegates each candidates receives, you will vote for one of them who is still in the race.
If not, feel free to vote for Duncan Hunter, Dennis Kucinich, or Mickey Mouse.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Sorry, but I strongly disagree!&lt;/strong&gt;

A presidential primary is about allowing the voters to select the candidate they want to represent the party in the quest for the Presidency of the United States of America. That &lt;strong&gt;IS&lt;/strong&gt; the &lt;em&gt;principle&lt;/em&gt; and purpose of the primary process.

The primary process is about picking the candidate that we as individuals agree with most. It is not about picking between the lesser of two bad choices, or even the best of two good choices that have been selected for us by the media.

We decide, we pick who we want. So long as the candidate I agree with the most is on the ballot, I will vote my conscience and vote for them. If someone else gets the nomination because I chose the one I liked best, so be it. That simply means that the majority of people chose someone else. &lt;strong&gt;If a candidate cannot win outright on their own merits, I do not see the purpose in throwing my vote to them because I like the other top choice less.&lt;/strong&gt; If no one has the majority delegates before the convention, then the delegates have to make the selection at the convention.

My vote is not for sale to the lowest bidder or the lowest common denominator. Voting for the candidate of my choice, be that Kucinich, Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Gravel, Clinton, or Obama, is not a wasted vote. It is my vote, and that is the principle and purpose of an election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lovable Curmudgeon said:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;OK, principled one-<br />
If you want your vote to affect the number of delegates each candidates receives, you will vote for one of them who is still in the race.<br />
If not, feel free to vote for Duncan Hunter, Dennis Kucinich, or Mickey Mouse.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Sorry, but I strongly disagree!</strong></p>
<p>A presidential primary is about allowing the voters to select the candidate they want to represent the party in the quest for the Presidency of the United States of America. That <strong>IS</strong> the <em>principle</em> and purpose of the primary process.</p>
<p>The primary process is about picking the candidate that we as individuals agree with most. It is not about picking between the lesser of two bad choices, or even the best of two good choices that have been selected for us by the media.</p>
<p>We decide, we pick who we want. So long as the candidate I agree with the most is on the ballot, I will vote my conscience and vote for them. If someone else gets the nomination because I chose the one I liked best, so be it. That simply means that the majority of people chose someone else. <strong>If a candidate cannot win outright on their own merits, I do not see the purpose in throwing my vote to them because I like the other top choice less.</strong> If no one has the majority delegates before the convention, then the delegates have to make the selection at the convention.</p>
<p>My vote is not for sale to the lowest bidder or the lowest common denominator. Voting for the candidate of my choice, be that Kucinich, Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Gravel, Clinton, or Obama, is not a wasted vote. It is my vote, and that is the principle and purpose of an election.</p>
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		<title>By: demmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>demmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, we need a clear winner. A brokered convention would be terrific ratings and send political junkies (like ourselves) into political nirvana.

I love John &amp; Elizabeth. Barack and Michelle work for me. It is time to move forward and stop looking back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, we need a clear winner. A brokered convention would be terrific ratings and send political junkies (like ourselves) into political nirvana.</p>
<p>I love John &amp; Elizabeth. Barack and Michelle work for me. It is time to move forward and stop looking back.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lovable Curmudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lovable Curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, principled one-
If you want your vote to affect the number of delegates each candidates receives, you will vote for one of them who is still in the race.
If not, feel free to vote for Duncan Hunter, Dennis Kucinich, or Mickey Mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, principled one-<br />
If you want your vote to affect the number of delegates each candidates receives, you will vote for one of them who is still in the race.<br />
If not, feel free to vote for Duncan Hunter, Dennis Kucinich, or Mickey Mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;wasted vote&quot; argument is a pernicious cancer on every democratic principle implied in our republican system. the reasons to vote for edwards are clear enough. you feel there&#039;s a principle at stake. those who tell you that&#039;s a waste are trying to knuckle you under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;wasted vote&#8221; argument is a pernicious cancer on every democratic principle implied in our republican system. the reasons to vote for edwards are clear enough. you feel there&#8217;s a principle at stake. those who tell you that&#8217;s a waste are trying to knuckle you under.</p>
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