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	<title>Comments on: Al Gore and the Mouth Breathers at Western CPAC</title>
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	<description>Challenging Orange County&#039;s right-wing noise machine</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Harvard, grades have gone up, but my friends in Boston actually laughed out loud at the suggestion grades were deliberately inflated. When Harvard&#039;s football team is getting creamed on a Saturday, the cheer from the student section is:
&quot;That&#039;s alright
That&#039;s OK
You&#039;ll Go to Work for Us Someday.&quot;

And a small confession; I had never heard of CMC until I moved here a few years ago.  It&#039;s an East Coast thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Harvard, grades have gone up, but my friends in Boston actually laughed out loud at the suggestion grades were deliberately inflated. When Harvard&#8217;s football team is getting creamed on a Saturday, the cheer from the student section is:<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s alright<br />
That&#8217;s OK<br />
You&#8217;ll Go to Work for Us Someday.&#8221;</p>
<p>And a small confession; I had never heard of CMC until I moved here a few years ago.  It&#8217;s an East Coast thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck has failed to point to any evidence that supports his claim that 
90% or all students get A&#039;s&quot; at Harvard.
Once again he throws around numbers as fact, but is not able to support them.  I suppose unsupported claims pass as intellectual discourse at schools like Claremont.
All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck has failed to point to any evidence that supports his claim that<br />
90% or all students get A&#8217;s&#8221; at Harvard.<br />
Once again he throws around numbers as fact, but is not able to support them.  I suppose unsupported claims pass as intellectual discourse at schools like Claremont.<br />
All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: RHackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Regarding RHackettâ€™s comment: grade inflation at Harvard is said to be a fairly new problem. Wasnâ€™t likely happening yet when Bush was there. Oh, and, regarding Randâ€™s accusation, Iâ€™m not a Randian, and neither are most conservatives. The Randianâ€™s lost the philosophical debate in the late 50s.&lt;/I&gt;

Chuck.  Thanks for the clarification on Ivy League gradeflation.  I bet the English department at Yale is very proud of Bush&#039;s extemporaneous speaking ability.

And it is obvious that most conservatives don&#039;t buy into the &quot;taxes taken by force for looters&quot; argument as put forth by Randians.  Otherwise how would  all those GOP friends get the funding for the no-bid contracts they give to their friends at Boeing, Bechtel, Halliburton, and Blackwater?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Regarding RHackettâ€™s comment: grade inflation at Harvard is said to be a fairly new problem. Wasnâ€™t likely happening yet when Bush was there. Oh, and, regarding Randâ€™s accusation, Iâ€™m not a Randian, and neither are most conservatives. The Randianâ€™s lost the philosophical debate in the late 50s.</i></p>
<p>Chuck.  Thanks for the clarification on Ivy League gradeflation.  I bet the English department at Yale is very proud of Bush&#8217;s extemporaneous speaking ability.</p>
<p>And it is obvious that most conservatives don&#8217;t buy into the &#8220;taxes taken by force for looters&#8221; argument as put forth by Randians.  Otherwise how would  all those GOP friends get the funding for the no-bid contracts they give to their friends at Boeing, Bechtel, Halliburton, and Blackwater?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Matt; do you need a hug.  ;)

Its a give and take debate and you and Chuck debate as well as anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Matt; do you need a hug.  <img src='http://www.theliberaloc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Its a give and take debate and you and Chuck debate as well as anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jubal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jubal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, my apologies.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, my apologies.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.theliberaloc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck -- I believe the Lion&#039;s share of research still supports Gore on climate change.  And you won&#039;t buy Gore&#039;s arguement becuase he&#039;s not a scientist but will buy McClintock&#039;s, who isn&#039;t a scientist but tows the line you want to hear.  

But an honest question of you.  Do you believe climate change is a problem? Its a yes or no question.  

Given that you have compared Gore&#039;s Oscar-winning documentary (a top 5 all time grossing film) as a scare/fear film, I&#039;d say no.  And if that&#039;s the case, it lets the winds out of your sails for the pro-nuclear power push.

And if grade inflation is a reletively new argument (actually Princeton only awards 35 percent As across the board and other Ivys are following the model), doesn&#039;t that screw your argument for attending CMC instead of an Ivy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck &#8212; I believe the Lion&#8217;s share of research still supports Gore on climate change.  And you won&#8217;t buy Gore&#8217;s arguement becuase he&#8217;s not a scientist but will buy McClintock&#8217;s, who isn&#8217;t a scientist but tows the line you want to hear.  </p>
<p>But an honest question of you.  Do you believe climate change is a problem? Its a yes or no question.  </p>
<p>Given that you have compared Gore&#8217;s Oscar-winning documentary (a top 5 all time grossing film) as a scare/fear film, I&#8217;d say no.  And if that&#8217;s the case, it lets the winds out of your sails for the pro-nuclear power push.</p>
<p>And if grade inflation is a reletively new argument (actually Princeton only awards 35 percent As across the board and other Ivys are following the model), doesn&#8217;t that screw your argument for attending CMC instead of an Ivy?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck DeVore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck DeVore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, what an terribly irresponsible ad hominem smear you&#039;ve directed at Bjorn Lomborg.  He is not a Holocaust denier.  He has been compared to one by the environmental left.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  

You folks are losing all credibility on this. 

Regarding RHackett&#039;s comment: grade inflation at Harvard is said to be a fairly new problem.  Wasn&#039;t likely happening yet when Bush was there.   Oh, and, regarding Rand&#039;s accusation, I&#039;m not a Randian, and neither are most conservatives.  The Randian&#039;s lost the philosophical debate in the late 50s.  

All the best,

Chuck DeVore
State Assemblyman, 70th District</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, what an terribly irresponsible ad hominem smear you&#8217;ve directed at Bjorn Lomborg.  He is not a Holocaust denier.  He has been compared to one by the environmental left.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  </p>
<p>You folks are losing all credibility on this. </p>
<p>Regarding RHackett&#8217;s comment: grade inflation at Harvard is said to be a fairly new problem.  Wasn&#8217;t likely happening yet when Bush was there.   Oh, and, regarding Rand&#8217;s accusation, I&#8217;m not a Randian, and neither are most conservatives.  The Randian&#8217;s lost the philosophical debate in the late 50s.  </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Chuck DeVore<br />
State Assemblyman, 70th District</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to this party, but regarding Bjorn Lomborg: You know he&#039;s a Holocaust denier, right? It kind of makes anything that comes out of his mouth suspect, up to and including &quot;I love my mother.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to this party, but regarding Bjorn Lomborg: You know he&#8217;s a Holocaust denier, right? It kind of makes anything that comes out of his mouth suspect, up to and including &#8220;I love my mother.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RHackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Not thought of applying to an Ivy League school such as Harvard, where grade inflation means that 90 percent of all students get Aâ€™s â€” meaning, of course, that grades are worthless there.&lt;/I&gt;

This explains Bush&#039;s Yale degree in history and Harvard MBA and the attending lack of intelligent action.

Thanks Chuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not thought of applying to an Ivy League school such as Harvard, where grade inflation means that 90 percent of all students get Aâ€™s â€” meaning, of course, that grades are worthless there.</i></p>
<p>This explains Bush&#8217;s Yale degree in history and Harvard MBA and the attending lack of intelligent action.</p>
<p>Thanks Chuck.</p>
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