Comments on: What Do YOU Think About the Anaheim City Council’s New Shot in the Battle of the Resort District? http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/ Challenging Orange County's right-wing noise machine Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:01:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: unnamed http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-13319 unnamed Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:35:20 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-13319 Marie we as citzens of anaheim shoud try to get your statement on the ballot if anyone wants to run for city council they must live in Anahim, California beofre and during there term. Marie we as citzens of anaheim shoud try to get your statement on the ballot if anyone wants to run for city council they must live in Anahim, California beofre and during there term.

]]> By: unnamed http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-13318 unnamed Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:28:02 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-13318 I been trying to ask what is considered affordable? they want to build condos and sun cal says " we will make "10% as affordable. but suncal has never did mention what is considered affordable. In San Diego county a few so called Affordable condos starts out at $450,000.00 and up. how is that affordable to the working persons. if they truly want affordable housing then put something in writing to the city council and to the citizens of Anaheim. but that is what is missing. what is to stop them after opening to change there minds and have the affordable housing set that there rates and not have no oversight. they city should have a committee that is 9 people that sits on this committee and sets standards working with the city of what is and what is not. considered affordable. the way I been hearing things and we should check out suncal track records in previous projects to see of they keep there words. or they just say this and that to get something passed and then change up once it is built. Developers has been known to do that a lot. has anyone ever checked out suncal track record? I been trying to ask what is considered affordable? they want to build condos and sun cal says ” we will make “10% as affordable. but suncal has never did mention what is considered affordable. In San Diego county a few so called Affordable condos starts out at $450,000.00 and up. how is that affordable to the working persons. if they truly want affordable housing then put something in writing to the city council and to the citizens of Anaheim. but that is what is missing. what is to stop them after opening to change there minds and have the affordable housing set that there rates and not have no oversight. they city should have a committee that is 9 people that sits on this committee and sets standards working with the city of what is and what is not. considered affordable. the way I been hearing things and we should check out suncal track records in previous projects to see of they keep there words. or they just say this and that to get something passed and then change up once it is built. Developers has been known to do that a lot. has anyone ever checked out suncal track record?

]]> By: Marie http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11347 Marie Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:04:25 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11347 I am a Anaheim homeowner and taxpayer. I have a real stake in this issue. Disney brings tourists revenue to the city, as well as the county in general. Of course, I want it to remain and continue to grow as a world-class resort. Every time I pass the Disney area, I like looking at the beautiful landscaping that Disney has done for that area. Anaheim already has tons of affordable apartments, and it is also a leading leader in low cost housing. There are so many more vacant areas to build more housing. My feelings and many of my neighbors and fellow residents is that the Council does not care about the future about Anaheim in the manner that we do. After all, several of them live in upscale Anaheim Hills, and one is reputed to be a slum lord himself. Their take is that we vote that Anaheim provides low cost housing and its quality of life be damn, while we go home to our exclusive area where the poor cannot afford to live. I feel strongly that to run for City Council, a candidate must have his primary residence in the city. Or else, we'll coninue to get these bozos who use the City Council for their own interests or their supporters, to the detriment of those who actually live there, and pay taxers that also provide services for the apartment dwellers. I am a Anaheim homeowner and taxpayer. I have a real stake in this issue.
Disney brings tourists revenue to the city, as well as the county in general. Of course, I want it to remain and continue to grow as a world-class resort. Every time I pass the Disney area, I like looking at the beautiful landscaping that Disney has done for that area.

Anaheim already has tons of affordable apartments, and it is also a leading leader in low cost housing. There are so many more vacant areas to build more housing.

My feelings and many of my neighbors and fellow residents is that the Council does not care about the future about Anaheim in the manner that we do. After all, several of them live in upscale Anaheim Hills, and one is reputed to be a slum lord himself. Their take is that we vote that Anaheim provides low cost housing and its quality of life be damn, while we go home to our exclusive area
where the poor cannot afford to live.

I feel strongly that to run for City Council, a candidate must have his primary residence in the city. Or else, we’ll coninue to get these bozos who use the City Council for their own interests or their supporters, to the detriment of those who actually live there, and pay taxers that also provide services for the apartment dwellers.

]]> By: anon http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11287 anon Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:10:31 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11287 I work in Orange historic district. Why can't we have more affordable homes in Old Town? Thats where I work, why can't I live there affordably? If I move to Newport Beach will you support affordable homes for me on the Beach? If not, why then should the businesses of Anaheim who years ago partnered with the City Council and created the Resort District be forced to accept the variance in zoning to allow SunCal to build non-tourist housing? Affordable housing is needed in all our cities. But we shold not be sacrificing the business and revenue streams that keep our cities functioning. A planned mix is appropriate. A Resort Distict, a housing district (Platinum Triange/A Town). A lot of low wage workers are and will be employed by stadium/team/restaurants... We need homes here too! As for Jubal, he's as welcome as anyone to post anywhere about anything. But here and at OJ he is just a blogger and should not be setting rules on our comments. Its a common practice over at reddish country to attack bloggers who think his bosses at SunCal are carpetbaggers. They've thrown in fewer affordable housing units than they will be removing with their project. Thats a net loss for low wage workers, but somehow they position themselves as the affordable housing white knights. If SunCal want to make a real difference, make all 1500 units affordable then they might get some support. I work in Orange historic district. Why can’t we have more affordable homes in Old Town? Thats where I work, why can’t I live there affordably? If I move to Newport Beach will you support affordable homes for me on the Beach? If not, why then should the businesses of Anaheim who years ago partnered with the City Council and created the Resort District be forced to accept the variance in zoning to allow SunCal to build non-tourist housing?

Affordable housing is needed in all our cities. But we shold not be sacrificing the business and revenue streams that keep our cities functioning. A planned mix is appropriate. A Resort Distict, a housing district (Platinum Triange/A Town). A lot of low wage workers are and will be employed by stadium/team/restaurants… We need homes here too!

As for Jubal, he’s as welcome as anyone to post anywhere about anything. But here and at OJ he is just a blogger and should not be setting rules on our comments. Its a common practice over at reddish country to attack bloggers who think his bosses at SunCal are carpetbaggers. They’ve thrown in fewer affordable housing units than they will be removing with their project. Thats a net loss for low wage workers, but somehow they position themselves as the affordable housing white knights. If SunCal want to make a real difference, make all 1500 units affordable then they might get some support.

]]> By: Andrew Davey http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11281 Andrew Davey Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:37:58 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11281 Aimee- Good point! Disney does need to fix its second theme park before it even thinks about opening a third one in the resort district. Anaheim needs to continue fixing the affordable housing crunch before the city can declare "mission accomplished". And yes, it would be nice for Anaheim to NOT become segregated within itself with a bunch of ghettos. Jon- So you live near the Disney Complex? And there isn't too much disturbing noise over there? Hmmm, interesting. Oh yes, and it would be nice for there to be housing for workers near the resort district. :-) Aimee-

Good point! Disney does need to fix its second theme park before it even thinks about opening a third one in the resort district. Anaheim needs to continue fixing the affordable housing crunch before the city can declare “mission accomplished”. And yes, it would be nice for Anaheim to NOT become segregated within itself with a bunch of ghettos.

Jon-

So you live near the Disney Complex? And there isn’t too much disturbing noise over there? Hmmm, interesting. Oh yes, and it would be nice for there to be housing for workers near the resort district. :-)

]]> By: Jon http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11280 Jon Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:57:25 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11280 disneylandlover1414, I live near the resort. The traffic and noise are not a really big issue. People actually want to live near the resort (or in it). That's why Suncal wants to build those units. disneylandlover1414, I live near the resort. The traffic and noise are not a really big issue. People actually want to live near the resort (or in it). That’s why Suncal wants to build those units.

]]> By: disneylandlover1414 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11275 disneylandlover1414 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:56:45 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11275 i think disney should make a 3rth park. bad idea making housing unit in the resort area 1.your gonna deal with traffic 2. it going to be Noisy at night witht he firework and shows. beside i would NEVER ever live near resorts since of those 2 reasons. i think disney should make a 3rth park.
bad idea making housing unit in the resort area
1.your gonna deal with traffic
2. it going to be Noisy at night witht he firework and shows.
beside i would NEVER ever live near resorts since of those 2 reasons.

]]> By: Aimee http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11272 Aimee Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:23:01 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11272 Disney needs to fix California Adventure and get attendance up in that park before it even thinks about building a third park. Besides, the proposed condos are so far from the current "resort district" that it might be a bit of a hassle for tourists to get there. Anaheim needs mixed-income apartment/condo developments. The city has already done a lot more than most Orange County cities in 2005 by constructing five or six low-income developments, but I'd hate to see a continuance of the same kind of ghettoizing we already have going on in parts of Anaheim. I am completely bored by the conflict between Disney and SunCal. But hey, it got people to protest with signs in front of city hall a couple weeks ago. That almost *never* happens. Disney needs to fix California Adventure and get attendance up in that park before it even thinks about building a third park. Besides, the proposed condos are so far from the current “resort district” that it might be a bit of a hassle for tourists to get there.

Anaheim needs mixed-income apartment/condo developments. The city has already done a lot more than most Orange County cities in 2005 by constructing five or six low-income developments, but I’d hate to see a continuance of the same kind of ghettoizing we already have going on in parts of Anaheim.

I am completely bored by the conflict between Disney and SunCal. But hey, it got people to protest with signs in front of city hall a couple weeks ago. That almost *never* happens.

]]> By: Andrew Davey http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/comment-page-1/#comment-11269 Andrew Davey Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:02:07 +0000 http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/09/26/what-do-you-think-about-the-anaheim-city-councils-new-shot-in-the-battle-of-the-resort-district/#comment-11269 Anon- Come on, now! You should know by now that The Liberal OC is EVERYONE'S BLOG. So if Matt/Jubal likes to visit for fair site and add in his $0.02 here, then why not let him do so? Personally, I think one of the best qualities of our blog is the diversity of points of view offered here. Matt- Whoa! This is crazy! Now, I'm agreeing with you! Someone slap me silly! ;-) OK, OK, let me get serious again. Yes, if Disney doesn't like "ballot box zoning", then they should stop engaging in it themselves. Oh, and at least with Greenlight, Newport voters get to decide future development projects... With Disney's SOAR, Anaheim will NOT be able to have a say on what happens in its own city. Oh yes, and I definitely agree with Anon that there should have been affordable housing planned in the Triangle... But there should ALSO be affordable housing available for the resort workers somewhere in Anaheim. And whether that's in the Triangle or in the Suncal development, we need affordable housing ASAP! And since Disney broke its 1994 promise to provide for that, something needs to be done. So why doesn't Disney want Anaheim to decide what's best for its own city? Anon-

Come on, now! You should know by now that The Liberal OC is EVERYONE’S BLOG. So if Matt/Jubal likes to visit for fair site and add in his $0.02 here, then why not let him do so? Personally, I think one of the best qualities of our blog is the diversity of points of view offered here.

Matt-

Whoa! This is crazy! Now, I’m agreeing with you! Someone slap me silly! ;-)

OK, OK, let me get serious again. Yes, if Disney doesn’t like “ballot box zoning”, then they should stop engaging in it themselves. Oh, and at least with Greenlight, Newport voters get to decide future development projects… With Disney’s SOAR, Anaheim will NOT be able to have a say on what happens in its own city. Oh yes, and I definitely agree with Anon that there should have been affordable housing planned in the Triangle… But there should ALSO be affordable housing available for the resort workers somewhere in Anaheim. And whether that’s in the Triangle or in the Suncal development, we need affordable housing ASAP! And since Disney broke its 1994 promise to provide for that, something needs to be done. So why doesn’t Disney want Anaheim to decide what’s best for its own city?

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