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	<title>Comments on: Can Disney Agree to Affordable Housing in Anaheim?</title>
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	<description>Challenging Orange County&#039;s right-wing noise machine</description>
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		<title>By: disneylandlover1414</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/08/01/can-disney-agree-to-affordable-housing-in-anaheim/comment-page-1/#comment-11274</link>
		<dc:creator>disneylandlover1414</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate the idea having housing unit in disneyland resort area.
BAD IDEA!
1. their too much traffic near disneyland resort area
2. it going to be Noisy at night with the shows and fireworks and i dont 
why just freakin plan it somewhere else in Anaheim!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate the idea having housing unit in disneyland resort area.<br />
BAD IDEA!<br />
1. their too much traffic near disneyland resort area<br />
2. it going to be Noisy at night with the shows and fireworks and i dont<br />
why just freakin plan it somewhere else in Anaheim!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publius-

Come on, now! I&#039;ve already corrected it. Disney did not strip the CITY OF ORLANDO of its regulatory powers with Reedy Creek. Disney stripped ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES of its regulatory powers over the Disney World area with the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Larry was only saying that sometimes &quot;Orlando&quot; is used as shorthand for the Orlando Metropolitan Area of ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES, just like &quot;LA&quot; is sometimes used as shorthand for just about anything in Los Angeles County south of Santa Clarita.

And Not a Mousehead-

No problem! I just want to warn folks of what Disney has already done to ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES in Florida in regards to regulating the Disney World area, and how this SOAR initiative in Anaheim is just another Reedy Creek that would defang the City of Anaheim of any regulatory powers over the Disneyland/CA Adventure area. Disney may be a big source of revenue for Anaheim, but it&#039;s not some omnipotent, omniscient force that gets to make its own rules for a large chunk of the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publius-</p>
<p>Come on, now! I&#8217;ve already corrected it. Disney did not strip the CITY OF ORLANDO of its regulatory powers with Reedy Creek. Disney stripped ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES of its regulatory powers over the Disney World area with the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Larry was only saying that sometimes &#8220;Orlando&#8221; is used as shorthand for the Orlando Metropolitan Area of ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES, just like &#8220;LA&#8221; is sometimes used as shorthand for just about anything in Los Angeles County south of Santa Clarita.</p>
<p>And Not a Mousehead-</p>
<p>No problem! I just want to warn folks of what Disney has already done to ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES in Florida in regards to regulating the Disney World area, and how this SOAR initiative in Anaheim is just another Reedy Creek that would defang the City of Anaheim of any regulatory powers over the Disneyland/CA Adventure area. Disney may be a big source of revenue for Anaheim, but it&#8217;s not some omnipotent, omniscient force that gets to make its own rules for a large chunk of the city.</p>
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		<title>By: larry gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publius. Where did I say &quot; that Disney controls city government the way it controls the government in Orlando&quot;?  Loser pays for dinner.
In fact we will be there in two weeks. Bring your credit card so you can pick up the tab. Larry Gilbert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publius. Where did I say &#8221; that Disney controls city government the way it controls the government in Orlando&#8221;?  Loser pays for dinner.<br />
In fact we will be there in two weeks. Bring your credit card so you can pick up the tab. Larry Gilbert</p>
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		<title>By: Not a Mousehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not a Mousehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site is not located in a redevelopment area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site is not located in a redevelopment area.</p>
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		<title>By: larry gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/08/01/can-disney-agree-to-affordable-housing-in-anaheim/comment-page-1/#comment-9508</link>
		<dc:creator>larry gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the S.D. Daily Transcript. 

&quot;According to state law, 15 percent of all units built within a city&#039;s redevelopment areas must be made affordable to low-and moderate-income homebuyers. Additionally, the city must use 20 percent of all annual redevelopment tax increment funds to create low- and moderate-income housing, like La Boheme&#039;s.&quot; (A San Diego County project).

I believe that Not a Mousehead correctly posted state law compliance with the 15 percent obligation  for redevelopment area&#039;s in his earlier response.  The key question relates to the project area. Is the proposed site inside a redevelopment zone that is controlled by the above referenced law?

Publius. As you picked on Andrew&#039;s geography I added that prior comment about LAX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the S.D. Daily Transcript. </p>
<p>&#8220;According to state law, 15 percent of all units built within a city&#8217;s redevelopment areas must be made affordable to low-and moderate-income homebuyers. Additionally, the city must use 20 percent of all annual redevelopment tax increment funds to create low- and moderate-income housing, like La Boheme&#8217;s.&#8221; (A San Diego County project).</p>
<p>I believe that Not a Mousehead correctly posted state law compliance with the 15 percent obligation  for redevelopment area&#8217;s in his earlier response.  The key question relates to the project area. Is the proposed site inside a redevelopment zone that is controlled by the above referenced law?</p>
<p>Publius. As you picked on Andrew&#8217;s geography I added that prior comment about LAX.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>larry g-
Saying that Disney controls city government the way it controls the government in Orlando is ridiculous.  It&#039;s like saying that they have strong influence in Long Beach because the parks are in Anaheim.  I was just pointing out the error.
And, I&#039;m checking the good old Thomas Brothers just to make sure that LAX still is within the city limits of LA (or &lt;i&gt;El Pueblo de Nuestra Sen~ora la Reina &lt;/i&gt; if you prefer).
What was your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>larry g-<br />
Saying that Disney controls city government the way it controls the government in Orlando is ridiculous.  It&#8217;s like saying that they have strong influence in Long Beach because the parks are in Anaheim.  I was just pointing out the error.<br />
And, I&#8217;m checking the good old Thomas Brothers just to make sure that LAX still is within the city limits of LA (or <i>El Pueblo de Nuestra Sen~ora la Reina </i> if you prefer).<br />
What was your point?</p>
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		<title>By: Not a Mousehead</title>
		<link>http://www.theliberaloc.com/2007/08/01/can-disney-agree-to-affordable-housing-in-anaheim/comment-page-1/#comment-9504</link>
		<dc:creator>Not a Mousehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew: Thanks for letting us know about this Reedy Creek thing. No matter which counties are involved, it is very alarming indeed to think that&#039;s what Disney might have in mind for Anaheim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew: Thanks for letting us know about this Reedy Creek thing. No matter which counties are involved, it is very alarming indeed to think that&#8217;s what Disney might have in mind for Anaheim.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Personally, I donÂ’t understand how they can maintain that itÂ’s okay for the City Council to pass specific plan amendments that Disney likes but somehow wrong to pass amendments that Disney doesnÂ’t like.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that&#039;s why I&#039;m perplexed here. Why is it OK for the resort plan to be amended to fit with Disney&#039;s desires, but not OK for the plan to be amended to fit the needs of the local workforce? I don&#039;t understand here.

And Larry: Thanks for the info on Orlando. That&#039;s what I meant. But still, from now on I&#039;ll just have to get used to saying ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES whenever I talk about the Reedy Creek Improvement District that did to ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES (in Florida) what the SOAR Initiative would do to Anaheim (which is Disney taking over all government actions). ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Personally, I donÂ’t understand how they can maintain that itÂ’s okay for the City Council to pass specific plan amendments that Disney likes but somehow wrong to pass amendments that Disney doesnÂ’t like.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m perplexed here. Why is it OK for the resort plan to be amended to fit with Disney&#8217;s desires, but not OK for the plan to be amended to fit the needs of the local workforce? I don&#8217;t understand here.</p>
<p>And Larry: Thanks for the info on Orlando. That&#8217;s what I meant. But still, from now on I&#8217;ll just have to get used to saying ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES whenever I talk about the Reedy Creek Improvement District that did to ORANGE AND OSECOLA COUNTIES (in Florida) what the SOAR Initiative would do to Anaheim (which is Disney taking over all government actions). <img src='http://www.theliberaloc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Not a Mousehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not a Mousehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: The resort specific plan has been amended seven times since it was passed in 1994, most recently to allow luxury condominiums (i.e., housing) as part of hotel development projects. I need to go back and check, but I&#039;m pretty sure that several of these amendments came about as a result of issues raised by people trying to put together viable development projects -- projects that were non-conforming until the City Council decided, rightly or wrongly, that they made sense in the resort. You may have taken a consistent position against all of these amendments on the grounds that they were bad planning, but I&#039;m quite sure the same is not true of Disney and their minions. Personally, I don&#039;t understand how they can maintain that it&#039;s okay for the City Council to pass specific plan amendments that Disney likes but somehow wrong to pass amendments that Disney doesn&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: The resort specific plan has been amended seven times since it was passed in 1994, most recently to allow luxury condominiums (i.e., housing) as part of hotel development projects. I need to go back and check, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that several of these amendments came about as a result of issues raised by people trying to put together viable development projects &#8212; projects that were non-conforming until the City Council decided, rightly or wrongly, that they made sense in the resort. You may have taken a consistent position against all of these amendments on the grounds that they were bad planning, but I&#8217;m quite sure the same is not true of Disney and their minions. Personally, I don&#8217;t understand how they can maintain that it&#8217;s okay for the City Council to pass specific plan amendments that Disney likes but somehow wrong to pass amendments that Disney doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
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