Jabbering Jabba the Greenhut & HRC

Greenhut just cracks me up. Here he goes again with his jibber-jabber nonsense about the Orange County Human Relations Commission

Totalitarian quote of the day

From Steven Greenhut:

Debate continues over whether to continue funding for the Orange County Human Relations Commission, even though the associated Human Relations Council does just fine with private donations, with former Register Editorial Writer John Seiler, OCBlog’s Jubal and moi arguing for an end to funding.Here is a hilarious, totalitarian defense of this totalitarian agency from theLiberalOC: “The Orange County Human Relations Commission fosters community understanding, communication, and partnership. There is no greater role that government can serve than to support such enhancement of our commmunities.”

Really? There is no greater role for government than to manage our private affairs? Here are some good reasons to cut funding:

Return of the Jedi1. The HRC has operated as speech police, and has inserted itself into local politics as a way to push its leader’s left-wing political agenda. Tax dollars should not be used to undermine free speech through intimidation or to advance a political agenda.

Sorry to burst your bubble Steven, but the Human Relations Commission has no authority or power to act as “Speech Police.” The “Agenda” is set by th Human Relations Commission whose members are appointed by the Board of Supervisors. The mission, or what you call “Agenda,” is set and supported by the Board of Supervisors not by the Executive Director as you suggest.

2. The HRC is Nanny Government and Thought Police rolled into one. The group assumes that we are all hate-mongers without its staff’s policing of our behavior and thoughts.

Wasn’t that your answer for point #1? Contrary to your claim, the HRC does not police thought, nor is it nanny government. The HRC simply helps the diverse communities of Orange County resolve their differences in productive ways. such an efort promots and supports the general welfare of our society. Without a doubt, this is the type of stuff government should be involved in.

3. The HRC promotes Balkanization and division by exploiting small differences to advance its agenda. The more “hate,” the more need for the group.

First, the term Balkanization does not in any way describe the efforts or the results of the HRC programs. Balkanization is the division of communities along racal, ethnis, or religious lines. HRC works to bring communities together through dialogue that facilitates mutual understanding and resulting in the reduction of community tension.

4. The board has become a source of self-enrichment for staff, which is paid up to $131K a year.

Steven, using “facts” from Matt Cunningham can sometimes be a dangerous thing. No one on the Commission staff makes $131,000 a year. In fact the top of the range for Executive Director Kennedy is tens of thousands of dollars less. The wages and salaries of the Executive Director and Commission staff fall under the administrative structure of the Housing and Community Developmant department, not the HRC.

Steven, I get it, you do not see any value in promoting harmony and understanding among our diverse communities of Orange County.  That does not mean that the Commission should not be funded, nor does it mean that the work of the commission is not a legitimate function of government.  Fortunately, there are private supporters of the Human Relations Commisson mission who leverage the the modest support provided by the County into more than $1.5 million in funded programs offered by the Human Relations Council in support of that mission.

  10 comments for “Jabbering Jabba the Greenhut & HRC

  1. Aunt Millie
    June 25, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    to·tal·i·tar·i·an (tō-tāl’Ä­-târ’Ä“-É™n) Pronunciation Key
    adj. Of, relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed: “A totalitarian regime crushes all autonomous institutions in its drive to seize the human soul” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.)


    I had so, so misunderestimated you guys. I didn’t know you favored crushing all autonomous institutions in your drive to seize the human soul, or that you were in league with the BOS to accomplish your nefarious ends.

    Please use your totalitarianism only for good, and never for evil, starting with crushing the soul of Steven Greenhut, should he in fact have one.

  2. Jubal
    June 25, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    I guess when you run out of arguments, then resort to Photoshopping your opponents into an alien.

    Chris, I asked the County CEO’s office how much the county fund the HR Commission this budget. I asked for it to be broken down into salaries & benefits, supplies & services. I also asked what Rusty’s salary was. I was given all that information.

    Your response is that cannot be true. Then he can take that with the CEO’s office if you thinks they are lying.

  3. June 25, 2007 at 5:07 pm


    Did it occur to you to ask what the figure you were told included? Did you think to ask if the amount included benefits? Did it occur to you that reporting a figure as a salary amount that includes the cost of benefits would be grossly misleading?

    Of course not, because “It is well known that the facts have a strong liberal bias.”

  4. Steven Greenhut
    June 25, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Oh please, don’t crush my soul …..

  5. Jubal
    June 25, 2007 at 6:05 pm


    Did it occur to you that I asked that question? And that $131,000 was the answer I received?

    I’m not an idiot, Chris. I didn’t pull these figures out of thin air. I did my homework. Just because you don’t like the information I obtained doesn’t make the information wrong.

  6. June 25, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    Now – Now!

    You Guys and Gals be nice to Steven Greenhut, he’s a nice person and I like him just fine.

    If you want to pick-on-someone, well, come on over to my place.

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  7. June 25, 2007 at 6:45 pm


    You checked with the CEO, I checked with Rusty. He indicated that he did not make the amount you stated. I checked out the Salary range for his position classification which is Administrative Manager II. The top of that salary range is $110,864 a year, and for the record, most county managers including Rusty, are not paid at the top of their salary range.

    I doubt anyone lied, but either you heard wrong or the person you spoke with did not know what they were talking about.

    But please, dont just trust me, verify the accuracy of my statements HERE.

  8. June 25, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    As far as the picture, Steven told me the other day that it was one of his favorites. I think I promised to use it again when I had the opportunity. This was that opportunity. Steven also knows it is all in good fun. 🙂

  9. Steven Greenhut
    June 25, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    You guys are wrong on the HRC, but the picture is OK with me. My wife got a good laugh out of it, too. … It really is good fun.

  10. June 25, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    I look at it this way, politics is much more fun with a dose of humor every now and then. 😉

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