11 comments for “Greenhut Leaving the GOP

  1. April 26, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    Looks like I started a trend…congrats to Steven. It is quite liberating not to be beholden to any of the political parties.

  2. April 27, 2007 at 5:42 am

    Well, we’ll be happy to have you Steven.

    By-the-way, so far, my all time favorite story by you is when you deftly described the typical public servant at our typical City Hall or Police Department in America, [and specifically some which are local] – as being not unlike a Hall Monitor – like as in the variety of someone who doesn’t have a life – a typical Boy Scout – the little old lady accross the street – peeping out of her window – spying on the neighbors.

    Constantly prepared for – the Non-Event!

    - Dave

  3. Steven Greenhut
    April 27, 2007 at 9:30 am

    Dan:

    I really do think you are wrong in suggesting that I don’t bash Republicans very much. I’ve been bashing the sheriff pretty much lately on the jail issue and I often criticize our DA. I did a major piece bashing Giuliani recently. Check the Orange Punch blog and see my bashing of John McCain and Janet Nguyen. Certainly, I was very supportive of Lou Correa and not very nice to Lynn Daucher. You perhaps are the only person in OC who didn’t notice that. I bashed Ackerman for his refusal to support Prop. 90 and on and on. By the way, Loretta Sanchez, Gloria Romero and Mark Leno were my HEROES of the week last week (see blog and Commentary section) for their stances on medical marijuana and police secrecy.

    Ask Bill Campbell how nice I’ve been to him for his pension-spiking. Of course, I criticize Republicans for failing to live up to my right-of-center/libertarian perspective, as opposed to the reasons you criticize them. But still, it’s wrong to suggest that I am not critical of Republicans. While I’m at it, I can’t recall having said anything nice about horrible George Bush for a very long time.

    But thanks for posting about my non-eventful abandonment of the police-state, pro-war party.

    Steven

  4. Dan Chmielewski
    April 27, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Steve — I didn’t say you don’t bash Republicans, but the Democrats get the Lion’s share of your criticism and its usually accompanied with some pretty nasty adjectives.

    I’m tired of having my side portrayed as socialists OK?

    I do believe you’re making a principled stance by leaving the party. Matt Cunningham at OC Blog suggests that conservatives like Ronald Reagan are needed to save the party. But when did Reagan shrink government? His economic policies were built on what amounts to credit card advances that even Poppi Bush knew he had to fix with a Tax increase.

    Pew Research polls indicate the country is shifting blue; Republicans in California make up about 35 percent of registered voters. And even Orange County is tied for the second highest concentration of Democratic voters in the state (with San Diego).

    Glad your leaving the GOP, and as far as the notion of “Liberty” goes, I believe the policies of the Republican Party are a greater threat to individual liberty than any threat posed by Democrats.

  5. April 27, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    I’m tired of having my side portrayed as socialists OK?

    Then quit acting the part so well Dan. How is what the Democrats solution to almost every issue not socialistic? Mind you, I include a lot of recent Republican rule in this category as well. We’re just better at denying that what our GOP legislators have done recently is not socialistic. You’re just mad that you guys have been framed very well as socialists. How about making a return to freedom and the Bill of Rights by both parties?

  6. Dan Chmielewski
    April 27, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    Geez Allan, last time we had the White House, we had a budget surplus, we were paying down the debt, government was the smallest it was since the Kennedy administration, we had allies so when we went to Bosnia we were able to achieve a military victory without loss of American life or our nationa dignity.

    Face it. You guys have been wrong about nearly everything since Bush came to power. And I am not mad, honestly, I’m not.

    We were attacked on Bush’s watch
    We invaded a sovereign nation for WMDs that weren’t there and then the reason kept changing
    We outed covert CIA operatives
    We’ve surrended civil liberties
    The president suspended rules of law with signing statements.
    We’ve run up massive deficits and national debt all in the name of tax cuts that are just nw charges on the national credit card
    We install ANTI-environment lobbyist to run the EPA, ANTI-labor lobbyists to run the Department of Labor, ANTI-diplomats to represent us in the UN.
    Corrupt Republicans in jail (Cunningham, Ney and hopefully DeLay).

    Under the Republicans, more people are on the poverty rolls, fewer people have health insurance, and the new jobs created in this economy can’t keep pace with the demands of the nation. You want smaller government. Vote for Al Gore or Hillary Clinton — people involved in the last administration to actually do it.

  7. April 28, 2007 at 6:53 am

    This is the second important abandonment of the “:police-state, pro-war party” recently. The other, of course, was Pete McCloskey, whose “letter of resignation” was very public and very widely reported. I grew up in Arizona at a time when our two Congressional Representatives were Stewart Udall and John Rhodes. Both were honorable men who worked hard to accomplish what they felt was best for the country. I first registered Republican but, like McCloskey, and now Steven Greenhut, I left that party without looking back.

  8. RHackett
    April 29, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Gotta agree with Dan on this one. While I agree that Steve does rail against the conservatives, it is done rarely with little enthusiasm. Or in some cases not at all. Where were the hit pieces on the lobbying contract with Scott Baugh? Or the investigation of the no bid contract for archiving materials for the county awarded to a campaign contributor?

    When there is little or nothing going on, we are always assured Steve will write about police and firefighters being overpaid even though he’s never ridden in a squad car or a fire engine. Yet he knows the profession well enough to criticize.

    I have wondered for how long he would support a group that resembles little of what it claims. To do so is intellectually dishonest or lazy.

  9. April 29, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    Anyone in need of Venture Capital?

    Well, in defense of Steve – the Police and Firefighters are overpaid – and I for one – hope that he keeps writing about it until the underpaid Taxpayers get some relief from it.

    An example of overpayment is available at my site.

    Someone might want to start a topic about what Disneyland thinks of the City of Irvine building an amusement park with public funds.

    It’s going to compete with Disneyland, Legoland, Universal City, Magic Mountain and a whole bunch of other private businesses.

    Those private businesses would probably like to have some no-questions-asked venture capital themselves!

    I’ll be passin’ on the $20.00 Orange Baloon Ride myself – thank you.

    Dave

  10. Anonymous
    April 29, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    Good for Greenhut in recognizing the unconscionable assaults on the Constitution by the Bush regime.

    I’ve been appalled at the number of so called conservatives who are willing to sacrifice basic freedoms and head towards authoritarian solutions. i guess they’re so busy exporting freedom to Iraq that they’re willing to accept a shortage at home.

  11. RHackett
    April 29, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    Well, in defense of Steve – the Police and Firefighters are overpaid – and I for one – hope that he keeps writing about it until the underpaid Taxpayers get some relief from it.

    Dave. What do you base this premise upon? If it is your opinion, fine. But certainly you have something more substantive than that to support your claim.

    Of the things my tax dollars are spent upon, that is one of the few where I believe I get my money’s worth.

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