The angry conservative

This post in the Flash Report is loaded with all of the venom and spew that the hardcore conservative right has become.  It’s not OC, but a post on the OC-based Flash Report make it noteworthy.  It comes from Michael Der Manouel Jr., the chairman and co-founder of the Lincoln Club of Fresno. 

His contention is Liberal hate Conservatives. No, we don’t.  Some of my best pals are these politically misguided souls.

He points to posts on the “hate-filled” Daily Kos as proof.  Sorry, I don’t see the hate and I read the site daily.  You’ll get snarkiness in the comments for sure, but hate-filled is pretty strong when you consider all the love the Republicans gave Bill Clinton in his time in office.

The next text kills me. 

“They don’t believe in defending this country, and they don’t believe our President is legitimately elected – either time.  They wish death to Dick Cheney.  They openly root for our defeat against terrorists.”

Not true.  I concede the second point but can only speak for myself.  On death ot Dick Cheney, no we don’t.  And on the last line, hell no.  In fact, on that last line alone, is proof that the hardcore right has gone totally batshit.  How many times must liberals, progressives and Democrats have to say it?  We love America.  End of story.

“They shout down conservative speakers on campus, protest the war against terrorism, and heap anger and misery everywhere they go.”  On the first point, please see the documentaries “This Divided State” and “Shut Up and Sing” to see which side shouts down the other.  We protest the war in Iraq which is not the war on terror.  Heaping anger and misery everywhere we go?  Only in places you lost congressional or senate seats.

Lastly, “…this “greenhouse gas” business is just a load of crap?”  I don’t really need to add anything to that do I?

I have to wonder why Jon Flieschman even gives a voice to “principled conservatives” like this.  It’s stuff like this that is continually thrown at us and we need to respond to it or else it sticks.  I’m old enough to remember days where Republicans and Democrats worked together to move the country forward.  Compromise worked.    But with conservatives like this, its very hard to be serious about working across the aisle to resolve our statewide and national problems.  And that’s too bad.


AN UPDATE:  This post from the Huffington Post on how Republicans have vandalized John Edwards’ online headquarters.  Perhaps The GOPrati in OC would like to comdemn this action? 


  8 comments for “The angry conservative

  1. Northcountystorm
    February 27, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Why the surprise? This poor raisin man undoubtedly gets his news from Fox and his kinder gentler style from Rush. Hard right conservatives are amazing for their tendency to decry negative attacks by liberals while sending scuds into Blue America. They are the sons(and daughters Ms. Coulter) of the John Birch Society and Senator Joe McCarthy and Father Coughlin.

    But I see the hate on the left also. it’s less mainstream then in the GOP but its there, nonetheless. Dan, you’re the Tip o’Neill ” Hate the sin, love the sinner” type of guy. But many on the left are nasty, just plain nasty. Although i have to say that with Democrats, they reserve most of their hate for other Democrats(witness the almost foaming mouth-like anti-Hillary blogs).

  2. Lee Lemke
    February 27, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    Talk is cheap Dan. Your actions speak a lot louder than your words. They are what prove how much you and other liberals HATE Conservatives. You complain that George W. Bush the President of the United States never admits mistakes. Well, your homely friend Hillary sure does dodge admitting she made a mistake in voting for the war.

  3. February 28, 2007 at 6:33 am

    In my experience, hard-right conservatives are a lot more hateful than liberals. Just look at the crap that was flung at Sal Tinajero last year, in the form of anonymous IE’s. Rosie Avila told a friend of mine that she loved these hit pieces. What kind of Christian would say that? The mailers were just awful.

    Then there’s Tim Whitacre. He smiles to your face but backstabs everyone when they are not around. But when he has meetings at his office, he starts with a prayer! Give me a break…

    That is the real pisser about these people. They pretend to love others while really hating them. Hypocrites!

  4. Anonymous
    February 28, 2007 at 7:23 am

    As the Bush administration has violated every principle of conservative philosophy, disregarding anything except lip service to limited government or balanced budgets, launching a disastrous interventionist foreign policy, wrecking our military, and shredding the Bill of Rights, there is nothing left of Republicanism except a hatred of liberals.

    There’s a fury in cognitive dissonance as their record of corruption and incompetence is at tremendous odds with their self-image.

    Bush and Cheney have destroyed the Republican party.

  5. February 28, 2007 at 8:20 am

    But I see the hate on the left also. it’s less mainstream then in the GOP but its there, nonetheless.

    Well, you are correct about that, Northcountystorm. There are a few crazed folks in our lovely lefty world who spew nothing but hatred towards everyone who is not “progressive” like them. However, I think we on the left have been more successful lately in dealing with our hateful extremists than the GOPers have. After all, look who’s running the show on the GOP side now. They have nothing BUT hate left, and toward everyone to their left!

  6. Anonymous
    February 28, 2007 at 9:06 am

    How are the conservatives going to choose between guys like Romney and McCain? On one hand you have a Mormon, whose church is best known for multiple wives and special underwear and on the other you have Rudi Giuliani, who also is known for multiple wives and wearing women’s undergarments. I don’t think Multiple Choice Mitt married his cousin like Rudi did. (Does anyone know the LDS position on cousin-marrying?)

    How do moralists deal with guys from Boston and New York who like gays, want to take away your guns, and believe in abortion on demand and socialized medicine – oh no, that was last week.

    I actually feel bad for Republicans; think what it’s like to have the feeling that there are metal bands tightening around your forehead.

  7. Dan Chmielewski
    February 28, 2007 at 9:10 am

    My point behind this post is I am sick and tired of being portrayed by batshit right wingers who insist that liberals don’t love our countryand that we’re on the side of terrorists. Lee Lemke’s response to this post is a paradox; are you admitting Lee that th war in Iraq was a mistake by your criticism of Hillary Clinton? Because if you feel it wasn’t a mistake, then you can’t really criticize her vote to authorize the use of force against Iraq, can you? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    The hardcore right continues to use Newt Gingrich’s playbook on language and labels that denegrate liberal and Democratic causes. The need to hold a mirror up to their own statements.

  8. Susan Freeze
    February 28, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    In psychology, I believe the term is projection. What you hate about yourself is projected on to another individual or group.

    (M)Ann Coulter is a perfect example.

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