“Drinking Liberally” Orange County Chapter launches on August 17th



Your friends at TheLiberalOC.com are launching an Orange County chapter of the national organization of “Drinking Liberally.”

This is just an informal, non-programmatic gathering that will meet every Thursday evening at Memphis Bar in Santa Ana at 8:30 p.m. Personally, I think that this is a much needed gathering here in OC. Consider it an oasis for progressive thinkers and those interested in progressive politics. I’m hoping to bring together activists, new comers and everyone in between.

Inebriation isn’t the end goal; engagement is.

One part Moveon.org and one part Tammany, the “Drinking Liberally” club brings the energy of online social networks into the face-to-face world of old-style 19th century bar-room politicking.

This is a no-pressure setting. Come once a week or once a month. Just come out and meet the people in the community.

If you’re even slightly interested in this event, here are a couple of things that will hopefully pull you in:

  • Read the Drinking Liberally website [HERE]
  • Sign up for the Drinking Liberally Orange County Mailing List [HERE]
  • Check out the currently silent OC chat boards on DL’s website [HERE]
  • Print out a flyer and give it to friends [HERE]
  • Check out the press release [HERE]
  • Protesters show up at Mansoor fundraiser last Sunday



    A few days ago I wrote a post about a fundraiser for Costa Mesa Mayor Allan “Definitely Not a Mexican” Mansoor. In the post, I mentioned the location of the event (a public park) and suggested that people show up to protest Mansoor’s screwy politics.

    I’m surely not suggesting that the protesters that showed up at the event had anything to do with yours truly, but I’d really like to believe that TheLiberalOC.com has become an inspiration to the lefties here in OC.

    A Mansoor supporter that was at the event posted photos on craigslist: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pol/188341308.html

    I found these photos thanks to Lurk at the OC Blog who was (his words, not mine) “cruising craigslist” at 9:00 at night. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

    Hell freezes over, pigs fly, and I’m agreeing with Norby & Greenhut

    We’ve been reading about this ridiculous $400,000 contract that Sheriff Mike Carona has been peddling to the Board of Supervisors since June, and the final decision will more than likely be made on Tuesday. It’s a contract with Scott P. Bryant and Associates to keep up a decade-long series of yearly public opinion polls about the Sheriff’s office.

    This survey asks things like: how important is it for the Sheriff to investigate murder and rape cases? Duh?!?

    Supervisor Chris Norby has stood firmly on questioning the Sheriff, and ultimately the Board deadlocked on the funding: Norby and Correa voted against, and Wilson and Silva voting for. Bill Campbell was absent and will cast the deciding vote on Tuesday, August 1st.

    That means that we have a couple of days to inundate the Board’s offices with our opinions. Let them know that are against real wasteful government spending: this survey asks the public how quickly they would like their 911 calls answered!

    I am going to also write to my Supervisor and let him know that he should stand up to the bully sheriff. Carona strong-arms when he wants to get his way; we saw it when he assaulted a television cameraman back in May. And Carona is afraid he won’t get what he wants here, because he’s out there getting ugly again (from an OC Register editorial):

    ”The silly part about this is we spent more staff time trying to educate Mr. Norby, and clearly, he’s incapable of being educated,” Sheriff Carona told a Register reporter.

    “The only waste of taxpayer dollars is the time that we have had to listen to Norby debate this.”




    1st District: Lou Correa
    Phone: 714.834.3110
    Fax: 714.834.5754
    Email: lou.correa@ocgov.com

    2nd District: Jim Silva
    Phone: 714.834.3220
    Fax: 714.834.6109
    Email: district.two@ocgov.com

    3rd District: Bill Campbell
    Phone: (714) 834-3330
    Fax: (714) 834-2786
    E-mail: Bill.Campbell@ocgov.com

    4th District: Chris Norby
    Phone: 714.834.3440
    Fax: 714.834.2045
    Email: Chris.Norby@ocgov.com

    5th District: Thomas Wilson
    Phone: 714.834.3550
    Fax: 714.834.2670
    Email: Thomas.Wilson@ocgov.com

    [OC Register News Story]
    [OC Register Editorial]

    It’s all a picnic for Allan Mansoor.



    Life is easy for racist Costa Mesa Mayor Allan Mansoor. First he got the OC GOP to endorse him for reelection to the Costa Mesa City Council, and now he’s got the Minuteman Project throwing fundraising picnics in his honor.

    To get a peek at these Minutemen and maybe even see Militant Mansoor himself, you should go to Fairview Park tomorrow evening (it’s a public park). The potluck picnic for Mansoor starts at 5 p.m. and they have a “cowboy” theme.

    The park is located at 2501 Placentia Avenue, Costa Mesa, CA.

    Money for nothing



    I met up with Orange Juice blogger Art Pedroza last night, and a friend of ours told us about a fundraiser hosted by Santa Ana City Councilman Carlos Bustamante last Wednesday. The best part of this event was when Carlos got on stage and compared himself to none other than Forest Gump.

    There really wasn’t anyone at the fundraiser talking about what they were raising funds for exactly…Bustamante’s council seat is safe for a couple of years, and as far as we know he doesn’t have any incurable diseases.

    He can’t be raising funds to run for an Orange County Supervisor’s seat; there aren’t any vacant Orange County Supervisor seats yet. So unless Bustamante is counting on a Ducher loss for State Senate, I’m not sure where this money is going.

    Art beat me to the post. Read his take: “Run, Carlos, Run!”

    Large rally in Anaheim tomorrow

    In Abraham Lincoln’s second inaugural speech, he said “With malice towards none, with charity for all.”

    With those words in mind, I wanted to post a quick something about a rally that will take place in Anaheim tomorrow afternoon.

    I’ve watched horrific scenes of violence and destruction in Palestinian areas as well as throughout Lebanon and in Israel. I think that Americans need to step up and demand peace in the short term, and negotiated settlement in the long term.

    This violence is getting close to becoming out of control, and is on the verge of becoming a full-out regional war in which there will be no winners.

    The Southern California Rally Against the Terror Attacks on Lebanon and Palestine
    No to destruction.
    No to the collective punishment of civilians.
    Not in our name.
    Not with our money.
    Participate in the area’s largest rally in solidarity with the people of Lebanon and Palestine.

    WHEN: Saturday, July 29th, 2006, at 4:30 p.m.

    WHERE: 512 S. Brookhurst St., Anaheim
    (between Broadway and Orange)

    115412440119413414



    This is the first in a series of articles where we run candidate profiles about good politicians that are fighting for seats in November. This series will also include many city council races after the August 11th filing deadline.

    The name Phil Angelides isn’t new to any of us. His focus has usually been on ending the abuses that have harmed the financial security of California families and California’s economy. As state treasurer, Phil has aggressively stood up for the principles of responsibility, fairness, and opportunity.

    Since the election of Governor Schwarzenegger, Angelides has grown more and more concerned over the governor’s proposals to cut education and healthcare for Californians for those reasons he says that he has decided to run to replace Governor Schwarzenegger.Arnold campaigned for Bush in Ohio; Arnold used a wrong-headed special election to try to roll back a woman’s right to choose; Arnold burdened our kids with debt when he had promised otherwise; turned young people away from college and slashed classroom education when he had promised otherwise; coddled special interested when he had promised otherwise.

    When Angelides spoke to the California Democratic Party in April, his conviction to democratic ideals shined:


    As your Governor, I’ll roll back some of those tax giveaways so we can fund our schools, and reverse Arnold Schwarzenegger’s tuition and fee hikes.

    If George Bush and Arnold Schwarzenegger think it’s fine for young men and women to sacrifice their lives in the sands of Iraq, then their big-money bakers can sacrifice to give our young people the best schools in the world.

    As your Governor, I’ll take on the big polluters to protect our environment and make California the global leader in the fight against global warming.

    As your Governor, I’ll stand up to HMO profiteering and expand health care for working Californians, starting with all children.

    As your Governor, I will do everything in my power to stand up to the Bush administration in Washington – to speak out against a war in Iraq that wounds our conscience as well as our young people – and to give Nancy Pelosi a Democratic President in 2008 so we can bring Democratic values to all of American

    I’ve been fighting for those values – for each one of you – for too long to back down now.


    If anyone in Orange County is interested in volunteering some time to the Phil Angelides campaign, contact Kandice Richardson: krichardson@angelides.com. Don’t hesitate to tell them that TheLiberalOC.com sent you.

    [The Phil Angelides Website]

    OK, I’ve read the Grand Jury report on the Great Park

    I’m a little tardy here, but I wanted to respond to the July 17 reader response in the OC Register written by Irvine Council members Christina Shea and Stephen Choi. Here’s the link to the original story.

    They write:
    “Larry Agran misled your readers in his July 2 Reader Rebuttal about the county grand jury’s report criticizing his leadership of the Great Park project. He based his allegations on a false premise that the report called for the county of Orange to take over the project.

    It’s simply not true. You can read the report for yourself on the grand jury’s Web site, www.ocgrandjury.org. “

    So wanting to be an informed citizen, I clicked the link and read the report.

    Page 7: “The Grand Jury believes the BOS (board of supervisors) should want to expert its power to wrest some control giving the county a proper voice in this important project.”

    Page 11 (the recommendations page): “The Board of Supervisors, representing all Orange County citizens, should consider legal action to return control of the Great Park to the people of Orange County.” (who are represented by the Board of Supervisors).

    And my favorite sentence in the report, on page 5.

    “At this time, Irvine maintains ownership of the property.”

    The false premise is from Shea and Choi.

    Council members Shea and Choi are counting on Irvine residents to believe their interpretation of the Grand Jury report instead of reading the document for yourself. They simple want to brand council member Agran and Mayor Krom as liars. After all, what are you going to believe. Your own eyes or what they tell you? The later portion of the column hovers over non-Great Park issues. That’s right, the same people who were against the new ethics ordinance in Irvine are calling Krom and Agran’s ethics into question.

    But better still, should Shea, Choi gain control of the city council this fall, it certainly looks like they are advocating handing over city property to county control? That’s like your mother-in-law making all the decisions about how your house is run but you’re stuck with all the bills for it.

    The Park is going to be built and there won’t be restrictions on entry for Irvine residents only. The Park will benefit all the residents of Orange County and that is the promise of Measure W.

    Forgetful Frank

    Frank Mickadeit’s column in the Register is a good read this morning. And like Steve Greenhut, he misses the larger point and focuses instead on a much smaller one but blowing it out of proportion.

    You can read Frank’s column here.

    Frank attended a portion of Irvine’s marathon city council meeting last Tuesday (17 hours plus). And the sister city debate popped up again, prompting Beth Krom to make the following statement (quoting Mickadeit’s work now):

    “We can sit here and see how many wedges we can create in the community. I don’t think that’s in anybody’s best interest….
    I see Mr. Mickadeit is here this evening. Welcome. I will say that for those of you who have been reading Mr. Mickadeit’s column about this, you should know that Mr. Mickadeit has never had the courtesy, not once, to contact me, not once to speak to me personally, so if my name has appeared in his column and if he has referenced my motivations, my intentions, my ideas and my thoughts, that has been purely a fabrication of his mind. So let me just say for those people who are invested in making sure that this remains a contentious issue, I don’t share your interests.”

    The focus on Frank’s column was “when did I reference her motivations?”

    Well, Frank did refer to Krom’s “pettiness” and “inconsistency” in an earlier column where he certainly seems to call her motivations into question on a number of occasions.

    What Frank seems to have missed is what I bolded earlier in Krom’s statement as quoted by Frank himself. And emails I have from Frank confirm he has never bothered to call the Mayor for comment. Not once on anything related to anything going on at Irvine City Hall has Frank picked up the phone to interview the Mayor. Shouldn’t that basic fairness be something that is an element of every story?

    The minute you get a quote from one side, you are obligated to offer an opposing viewpoint the same chance to talk. It’s been 25 years since I took News Reporting and Writing 101, but at least I wasn’t sick that day.

    Frank writes he expected Krom to blame the media. Let’s review here for a moment. Frank called a sister city in Australia that happens to have the same sister city relationships as Irvine and wrote a column about it but he can’t be bothered to make a call in his own area code. I’m not blaming the media for writing about a controversy but I can blame them for covering one side with any amount of basic fairness. My contention is always in OC, liberal media bias is bad but conservative media bias is OK.

    The second point, lost on Frank, is that Krom has no interest in continuing to drag this “controversy” out. Frank certainly does. As do Council members Stephen Choi and Christina Shea. If you really want to point a finger, point to Washington, DC where true control of the One China Policy exists. But being good Republicans, neither Shea or Choi will do that.

    I went to the Protest at Irvine City Hall. The largest guestimate of the crowd came from the LA Times stating about 200 people came. According to the US Census for the Year 2000, there were only 192,973 Taiwanese in the entire US. Irvine had the 11th highest concentration at 2.4 percent - that’s 463 people. Irvine’s demographic is 30 percent of the population is Asian or a total of about 54,000 of the city’s residents which means that Taiwanese make up less than one percent of the Asian population of Irvine. I can only wonder just what else does Frank expect Krom to do to resolve the situation because nothing she does ever seems to be good enough.

    My favorite part of Frank’s column was when Suhkee Kang sided with Shea and Choi on a second letter with conditions to the sister city agreement. But no such mention when Choi voted with Agran, Krom and Kang on directing city staff to respond to the OC Grand Jury report on the Great Park. It’s called a double-standard.

    Jabber The Greenhut Cracks His Nut

    I think Steven Greenhut over at the Register’s Orange Punch blog has cracked his nut (head). I think it happened sometime Thursday morning when he received a forwarded email from someone in the County (probably his buddy Chris Norby) that had been sent out by a County employee encouraging union members to ratify the proposed general salary increase. Apparently, Steven got so aggitated that he fell out of his chair and hit his head. Before the fog cleared from his acute head injury he quickly fired off a post to the Orange Punch Blog with the inflammatory headline “Union campaigning on county computers.”

    It seems that in his haste he forgot to think before he wrote his post. Now, there is a bit of conflicting opinion as to whether or not it takes an actual crack on the head for Jabber the Greenhut to post without thinking, but that topic will have to wait. What is clear is that he jumped to a conclusion that caused him to post the employee’s email message under a misleading headline that only the National Enquirer could love.

    Just because an employee posts an email to her coworkers telling them that they should go and vote for the ratification of a negotiated salary increase, does not mean that the “Union” is campaigning on county computers. As far as I can determine, this employee is not a union steward or officer and their only connection to the union is their membership in it. Therefore it is a big stretch to call this employee’s encouragement of other employees to approve the proposal “Union campaigning.”

    Yes, the employee should not have sent the message to all Health Care Agency users. The normal process for dealing with such errors is to counsel the employee not to do such a thing again. However, I have heard that Supervisor Norby blew a gasket when he saw the email causing him to badger the CEO and anyone else he could find to have this employee drawn and quartered. This caused a response from County administrator’s that can only be described as overkill. HCA Director Julie Poulson sent out a terse memo to HCA employees stating that the email was “disruptive to County business on multiple levels and a significant misuse of County resources.” She reminded staff that sending out unapproved emails to all HCA users would result in disciplinary action.

    The ironic part of all of this is the email and memo regarding the “Stuffed Animal Drive and Book Fair” that Ms. Poulson had sent out immediately prior to her missive about the use of County email for business matters. I am hard pressed to find the “County Business” relationship from her memo about stuffed animal donations, but I’m sure she thinks she can find one. What I find particularly annoying is that both of Julie’s emails required me to open up an attachment to read her memos, causing me to waste far more time reading her email than the few sentence message about voting on the salary increase. In addition to the email about the stuffed animal drive, we receive a significant number of emails every month regarding the County’s efforts to support the United Way Fundraising drive.

    The biggest insult created by this assault on an employee encouraging her coworkers to vote for their salary increase is the email that all county employees received from County CEO Thomas Mauk on October 28, 2005. In his message, Mauk tells all County employees how bad the effects of Measure D on the County budget would be if the measure was passed. Measure D, which was on the November 2005 Special Election Ballot, would have transferred funds from Proposition 172 to the Orange County Fire Authority. Mauk make no reference in his message about any positive effect if the measure were to pass, making it clear to the reader that he is encouraging a No vote on D.

    The County Board of Supervisors and the Orange County Employees Association both opposed the passage of Measure D. However encouraging employees to vote for or against a ballot measure through County email is technically against the law because doing so uses government resources to support or oppose a ballot measure. Further, while there is no law preventing employees from using employer resources to encourage their co-workers to ratify a contract, such activity may technically not be allowed under County/Agency policy.

    One could argue that, since the ratification of a contract agreement is a necessary function in order to ensure the efficient operation of County services to the public, communicating to employees the need to vote on the ratification of their contract is a necessary business function. At a minimum it is at least as necessary as encouraging employees to give a portion of their paychecks to charity.

    I find it incredible that Supervisor Norby finds no problem with emails not specifically related to County business when he supports their purpose, but gets irritated when he doesn’t support their purpose. To top it off, Jabber the Greenhut seems to have no problem jabbering before he has all the facts, blaming the “Union” for an email they did not solicit and did not generate.

    With this many mixed messages and double standards, I’m beginning to wonder if 4.75% is really enough to compensate for all the confusion and attacks.

    Blogging in bed



    I’ve gotten a few emails from people that think the Jon Fleischman photo that accompanied Monday’s Martin Wisckol column is hilarious.

    Someone called me and said “Did you see the picture in the Register of Fleischman surfing for porn?”

    And here’s where I stand up for Jon. I’ve blogged from bed. I’ve blogged from coffee shops. I blogged from the kitchen table. I’ve blogged from the car (a funny story if you ever want to hear it). There is only one place that I can say that I have never and will never blog from: work. My paycheck, like Fleishman’s used to be, comes out of the pockets of taxpayers.

    I have no right blogging on a political blog while at the office.

    Standing up for Fleishman made me sick curious…so I started looking at the posts that he has done over at The Flash Report, and I found that the majority of them are done in the 9 a.m. hour on weekdays. Which to many is considered “working time.”

    I don’t like to think that Fleishman may have been blogging while I was paying his paycheck. But he has quit his job as Carona’s mouthpiece, so I’m not going to worry about it much more. I’ll let Jon climb under his floral blankets and continue to click away.

    [Marty Wisckol’s Column in the OC Register]
    [Fleishman’s Flash Report]

    Why Unions Matter

    I’m getting into it a bit with Steven Greenhut at the OC Register. The man sees no value in unions, particularly government unions. He actually posted a note online that he was happy to see pro-union companies like General Motors doing poorly (hope the GM ad buyers didn’t see it).

    I’m the product of a union household and have long supported unions. My family didn’t cross the picket lines when grocery workers at my local Albertson’s went on strike a few years back.

    Here is why Unions matter:

    Unions provide workers with seniority which aids longevity on the job and a higher retention rate. If business falls off or tax revenues are down, it’s last hired, first laid off. Seniority is something of value with benefits attached to it for both the employer and employee. Workers with seniority are less likely to quit and employers benefit but the experience and not having to recruit and train a new employee; productivity increases with retention. Companies with higher retention, lower training costs, and experienced workers are good for companies and government agencies.

    For smaller companies, benefits like a pension plan are costly. But many unions have group benefits such as multi-employer pension plans that allow even small union shops to offer competitive benefits compared to a non-union competitor and comparable benefits to a larger company.

    Managing upwards is easier with union support. If you have a concern, bringing it up with management often means your concerns fall on deaf ears. Union representation provides a process to communicate complaints and concerns in a professional manner without fear of retaliation.

    Union workers demand and get better training, especially in new procedures and new technology that increases productivity.

    Greenhut’s contention that Unions protect the worst employees is flat wrong. No union can protect a worker from being fired for just cause. If the company shows the worker is frequently absent, not productive, incompetent, stealing from the company, or a threat to co-workers, no union in the world can save that person’s job.

    Senior management usually has contracts; unions effectively give one to workers. The US is one of the least unionized countries in the world (look it up) and there is an enormous gap between CEO pay and that of the average worker. Care to guess why?

    Unions do matter; the question Greenhut continues to dodge is “how much should a police officer, a firefighter, or a teacher be paid?” If you’re being robbed, your house is on fire or your kid needs the extra help at school, the answer is they aren’t paid enough. You want a real example of those severely underpaid? How about the American soldier?

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